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Old 11-20-20, 07:04 PM   #16
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On a sidenote, after WWII, research on the forgotten art of iodine therapy in medicine was started in the USSR, and some time later in America and Europe. But the Russians used it with greater success and experience in ordinary medicine and treatment in hospitals, like in the good old times before. They had great success with that. But you see, it was the cold war, and the class enemy was impossible to be described as somebody doing something better than us, the West. The Russian successes were ignored, then defamed, and Iodine was deleted from the list of Western activities.

That iodine today is so much ignored, is for political and ideological rivalry in the cold war! Until the time between the world wars, it was common component in every household'S medikit (not for cleanign wounds, but for swallowing it), and doctors treated a whole lot of deases by giving patients iodine - in dosages that today the WHO would get crazy over. Well, it often worked. And better than many of the new drugs used today. Doctors were pragmatic. Who healed, was right. Even if he did not fully understood why it healed.
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Hell, salt has to be good for you. Rome paid there soldiers with it and they conquered the known world.
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Old 11-21-20, 04:50 AM   #18
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Historically, salt had a dominant role as trading good. Wars were fought over it. It was traded as something extremely precious. Treaties were sealed with it, as gifts. And it was consumed in doses 20-50 times higher than what they tell us we should not exceed today. Modern civilizational deseases were unknown.


Could that have been due to too much salt then? Or isn't it more likely that it was due to soft drinks and frozen pizza with surrogate cheese and candy bars not having been invented? Or think of the gatorade culut in the past. One half of the sugar, the glucose, was burnt off mayb ein exercise, but the other half, the fructose, was stored in the liver, helping to get non-alcoholic fatty liver.


Its not the salt. Its what you eat it with. Starch. Wrong fats. Highly glycaemic stuff, triggering a persisting insuline reaction. Snacking all the time. Some of what we consider healthy diet is like drinking alcohol in order to get clean of alcoholism.
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On a personal note, the funny thing as I see it is the fact I'll only eat one flavour of crisps/potato chips and that's 'salted'
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On a personal note, the funny thing as I see it is the fact I'll only eat one flavour of crisps/potato chips and that's 'salted'
I know that, was the same for me. But flips and chips and all that have plenty of bad fats. I moived to simple salt sticks, its a compromise, but gets me the salt fix combined with a less unhealthy baking dough.


Older babies and little children love salty Brezeln, don't they?
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Ken Berry seems to be quite known in the US, to me he is still almost unknown, he is a doctor with a strong youtube community and being author of at least one book (which i have ordered) "Lies my doctor told me". How can you not want to get a book with such a title! So I am still not fully decided on what to think of this guy, but my first impression at least is such that I ordered his book, so...

In this video he has an hour of conversation with Prof. DiNicolantonio, talking anything immune system, and since I like DiNicolantonio's thinking and information and by now am a bit more familiar with his thinking on salt and fats, I find this conversation relevant especially in these times of corona going around. But after Corona, the pandemic on autoimmune deseases and chronic deases will still live on, so...





Its strange. Corona makes many people very sick. But this year it has led me on a path of growing health and restrengthening immunity .

The medical branches especially on food, nutrition and what is called ecotrophology, claim a lot of knowledge while they have no evidence for these claims in many, many cases. They have single observations and correlations, and thats the core of ecotrophology, and the temptation is to interpret these causally, which of course makes no sense. This puts your and my health at risk, puts us into a declined and vulnerable health status. The reason is Big Pharma and Big Agriculture. We are so many people on this planet now that we cannot feed them all healthy, and we must farm kinds of foods that maybe are not that good for us at all, just to get stuff into the masses' many mouths. But that is just feeding - it is not nourishing. For nourishing everybody, we are too many already. We are too many. How often did I say that.

I am chuckling often this year while I see many of the health promises I grew up with, especially whole grain (Vollkorn) diets, collapsing. I complained at times about the abuse of science and how corrupted it is by special interests and abuse. But I had no realistic idea on to what degree this abuse is present, and how far it reaches out.

And if anyone is wondering - no, I am not following a full keto diet regime myself, but i have copied some of its principles and incorporated them into my eating habits, namely to kick out disadvantageous fats and replacing them with advantagous fats (and eating more fat!), limiting carbohydrates from potatoes and rice and of course refined sugars and sweets a bit more (not killing them, sometimes I Iike to have them). To fully avoid what Keto says you should avoid, I lack the lasting will over the long term. To me it is about substantial reduction of what is bad for me. Its about compliance, you need to find a balance that is individual, where you have positive effects and yet not at such a high cost that your compliance goes low, because then you sooner or later run out of compliance and then go back to the old bad ways. Wasted time. 50% of 100 is better than 100% of nothing.
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