First Look at Modern Naval Warfare! - Page 2

von faust · 10-27-20, 04:27 AM

Incredible

A dream for us

Jojojung · 10-27-20, 05:43 PM

Very, very good news! Looking forward to get this.

Jojojung · 10-27-20, 06:29 PM

Is there any oppertunity to support the devs? Crowdfundig?

UglyMowgli · 10-28-20, 12:34 AM

Currently they are discussing with a publisher, if the deal is done they will have all the funding they need, if not, they will turn to a crowdfunding.

They will tell us if they need $$$.

stormrider_sp · 10-29-20, 01:48 PM

I hope it's not Microprose.

Pandur · 10-30-20, 06:03 AM

Just saying, a must buy for me when this comes out.

It looks like the 1st person DW in modern gameplay and graphics, mechanics, multiplayer with mulitstations, that i always wanted, is there anything more i could ask? I dont think so.

Good luck Maslas!

11-13-20, 07:21 AM

Very interesting....

I like the complexity of underwater warfare. But how do you learn this?
My problem with the vast majority of simulators is that the "academies" "youtubes" etc. made by people who know it all very well, while a novice still knows nothing. Too often they assume foreknowledge ... They more often show how well they know than they attempt to teach a nitwit something. .. eg an incident that vexed me wildly: On Youtube: We sail from Kiel to Kristiansand. Here rises a problem for a novice: How the hell do I get my boat in Kiel ??

Often the type of English is downright bad. Mostly for a non-Englishman, way, way too fast ...

To my taste, there should be "in game" lessons, in a calm manner, in plain English, clear sound, without abbreviations, with a clearly visible pointer, constantly targeting the target audience, the pointer not constantly flying across the screen etc. etc.

First with the help of a teacher, where you can easily take steps back ("what did he mean exactly?"),not only with an explanation WHAT you have to do but also WHY you have to do something, then the same exercise without a teacher. Because submarine warfare is so complex, you should actually have an education expert check the lessons.

In this way you will grow even more enthusiasts of this kind of simulators ...

easy

UglyMowgli · 11-13-20, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormrider_sp

I hope it's not Microprose.

Why?

Onkel Neal · 11-13-20, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by easy

Very interesting....

I like the complexity of underwater warfare. But how do you learn this?
My problem with the vast majority of simulators is that the "academies" "youtubes" etc. made by people who know it all very well, while a novice still knows nothing. Too often they assume foreknowledge ... They more often show how well they know than they attempt to teach a nitwit something. .. eg an incident that vexed me wildly: On Youtube: We sail from Kiel to Kristiansand. Here rises a problem for a novice: How the hell do I get my boat in Kiel ??

Often the type of English is downright bad. Mostly for a non-Englishman, way, way too fast ...

To my taste, there should be "in game" lessons, in a calm manner, in plain English, clear sound, without abbreviations, with a clearly visible pointer, constantly targeting the target audience, the pointer not constantly flying across the screen etc. etc.

First with the help of a teacher, where you can easily take steps back ("what did he mean exactly?"),not only with an explanation WHAT you have to do but also WHY you have to do something, then the same exercise without a teacher. Because submarine warfare is so complex, you should actually have an education expert check the lessons.

In this way you will grow even more enthusiasts of this kind of simulators ...

easy

Yeah, that's the long time dilemma for simulations, making them approachable for non-techies but also scalable for people who want to learn all the small details.

I like your idea of an "academy" style tutorial, that would be very engaging.

Hopefully, the devs will be able to include an easy mode where the TMA and fire control is assisted by the AI, but also a fully hands-on mode where the player will be able to work the contracts through sonar displays, classify them, designate them, develop a good solution through patient TMA, and then set up the shot.

The Cold Waters style of gameplay is fun but I like the challenge of Sub Command and Fast Attack, too.

Kapitan · 11-14-20, 10:28 PM

Well i can say i'm in for sure

UglyMowgli · 11-17-20, 02:47 AM

From the dev:

It will be the first SUB sim in the history of subsims that the ship moves with a real water physicseven on the demo that you saw a basic form of it was already there.

The pilots on MNW have work todo and what you saw on the demo is only 30% completeUse of ballast tanks and fore and aft planes are going to be there working with physics the same goes with propulsionAs I said a Subsim can never become a study sim like DCS because it is just meaningless but it can become a better dangerous waters.

Due to that fact and due to the quality standards that we have set, we can't give many platforms at initial release.

We will have to give the rest platforms on DLCs

Source :

https://discord.com/channels/4590954...96639371591741

Onkel Neal · 11-17-20, 01:43 PM

It's been so many years since DW, this is going to be great. Serious modern sub action again. Oh man.

FPSchazly · 11-17-20, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

It's been so many years since DW, this is going to be great. Serious modern sub action again. Oh man.

A very exciting time indeed! Can't wait.

GOZO · 11-24-20, 04:55 AM

Looking forward for this little gem!!!!

denis_469 · 11-24-20, 07:03 AM

Good design. Today I receive letter from Subsim about this pre-alpha. Graphic is excellent. It is my word. Design game is exellent like. But have few questions:
1 - how many resources need for this sim? After install Windows 10 in my computer game "Cold water" not run normal. In this sim I see best graphic then before - so this question and rise.
2 - As I remember first modern subsim was "Red storm rising" many-many years ago... As I know today - it was not realistic submarine sim. So now need know about: what about modern submarine countermeasures? What about data modern torpedoes and modern modification elderly torpedoes? Would be or not data about homing systems modern torpedoes, f.e. "Mark-48 mod.7 APB-5" - whta now loading in "Virginia" class submarine with elderly "Mark-48 mod.7 CBASS"? Would be or not resistance to various countermeasures for modern torpedoes? Whjat about data in subsim modern world (US f.e.) submarine sonars? In simulator I see one from last US submarine "Virginia" class what have “AN/BQQ-10(v)6 LABA” sonar. Khow this equipment would be releasing in game? What about ESM “AN/BLQ-10A (v)2 TI-14” install in this submarine? What data would be used in subsim? What about anechoing coating for US submarine and enemy submarines? And more more questions about realising modern equipment US submarine and enemy submarines and ship?

Iteresting read answers, so "Red storm rising" was simple shooter and not realistic. Not interesting another shooter seen...

10-28-20, 12:34 AM	#19
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Currently they are discussing with a publisher, if the deal is done they will have all the funding they need, if not, they will turn to a crowdfunding. They will tell us if they need $$$. __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

10-29-20, 01:48 PM	#20
stormrider_sp Planesman Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 186 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	I hope it's not Microprose. __________________

11-13-20, 07:21 AM	#22
easy Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Learning Modern Naval Warfare.... Very interesting.... I like the complexity of underwater warfare. But how do you learn this? My problem with the vast majority of simulators is that the "academies" "youtubes" etc. made by people who know it all very well, while a novice still knows nothing. Too often they assume foreknowledge ... They more often show how well they know than they attempt to teach a nitwit something. .. eg an incident that vexed me wildly: On Youtube: We sail from Kiel to Kristiansand. Here rises a problem for a novice: How the hell do I get my boat in Kiel ?? Often the type of English is downright bad. Mostly for a non-Englishman, way, way too fast ... To my taste, there should be "in game" lessons, in a calm manner, in plain English, clear sound, without abbreviations, with a clearly visible pointer, constantly targeting the target audience, the pointer not constantly flying across the screen etc. etc. First with the help of a teacher, where you can easily take steps back ("what did he mean exactly?"),not only with an explanation WHAT you have to do but also WHY you have to do something, then the same exercise without a teacher. Because submarine warfare is so complex, you should actually have an education expert check the lessons. In this way you will grow even more enthusiasts of this kind of simulators ... easy

11-14-20, 10:28 PM	#25
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Well i can say i'm in for sure __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-17-20, 02:47 AM	#26
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	From the dev: It will be the first SUB sim in the history of subsims that the ship moves with a real water physicseven on the demo that you saw a basic form of it was already there. The pilots on MNW have work todo and what you saw on the demo is only 30% completeUse of ballast tanks and fore and aft planes are going to be there working with physics the same goes with propulsionAs I said a Subsim can never become a study sim like DCS because it is just meaningless but it can become a better dangerous waters. Due to that fact and due to the quality standards that we have set, we can't give many platforms at initial release. We will have to give the rest platforms on DLCs Source : https://discord.com/channels/4590954...96639371591741 __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

10-27-20, 04:27 AM	#16
von faust Soundman Join Date: May 2009 Location: Genova, Italy Posts: 148 Downloads: 430 Uploads: 0	Incredible A dream for us

10-27-20, 05:43 PM	#17
Jojojung Seaman Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 42 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Very, very good news! Looking forward to get this.

10-27-20, 06:29 PM	#18
Jojojung Seaman Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 42 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Is there any oppertunity to support the devs? Crowdfundig?

10-30-20, 06:03 AM	#21
Pandur Watch Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 24 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Just saying, a must buy for me when this comes out. It looks like the 1st person DW in modern gameplay and graphics, mechanics, multiplayer with mulitstations, that i always wanted, is there anything more i could ask? I dont think so. Good luck Maslas!

11-17-20, 01:43 PM	#27
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	It's been so many years since DW, this is going to be great. Serious modern sub action again. Oh man.

11-24-20, 04:55 AM	#29
GOZO Commander Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Linkoping, Sweden Posts: 479 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 0	Looking forward for this little gem!!!! __________________ SHIV:TMo 2.5, RSRD, SCAF OLC, Ralle's modpack SHIV: WDAD, Med Campaign SHIII: GWX3 GOLD, OLCII Gold, ACM-reloaded interface mod, SHIIIcmndr 3.2, Full Realism/DiD SHIII: LSH3 2015 Cold Waters with all bells and whistles Finally SHV but still unmodded and still a noob....

11-24-20, 07:03 AM	#30
denis_469 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Russia Posts: 700 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Good design. Today I receive letter from Subsim about this pre-alpha. Graphic is excellent. It is my word. Design game is exellent like. But have few questions: 1 - how many resources need for this sim? After install Windows 10 in my computer game "Cold water" not run normal. In this sim I see best graphic then before - so this question and rise. 2 - As I remember first modern subsim was "Red storm rising" many-many years ago... As I know today - it was not realistic submarine sim. So now need know about: what about modern submarine countermeasures? What about data modern torpedoes and modern modification elderly torpedoes? Would be or not data about homing systems modern torpedoes, f.e. "Mark-48 mod.7 APB-5" - whta now loading in "Virginia" class submarine with elderly "Mark-48 mod.7 CBASS"? Would be or not resistance to various countermeasures for modern torpedoes? Whjat about data in subsim modern world (US f.e.) submarine sonars? In simulator I see one from last US submarine "Virginia" class what have “AN/BQQ-10(v)6 LABA” sonar. Khow this equipment would be releasing in game? What about ESM “AN/BLQ-10A (v)2 TI-14” install in this submarine? What data would be used in subsim? What about anechoing coating for US submarine and enemy submarines? And more more questions about realising modern equipment US submarine and enemy submarines and ship? Iteresting read answers, so "Red storm rising" was simple shooter and not realistic. Not interesting another shooter seen...