noob questions - Page 2

Brett Sinclair · 01-06-18, 12:06 PM

I have another one:
I currently command USS Balao and went out to capital ship hunting.
What are the IJN naval bases in SH4?
So far, I sunk the Hiryu and Fuso moored at Hiroshima harbour, and the Shokaku when it patrolled the entrance to Kobe bay (I thought it was a DD when it appeared on the radar, but to my amazement it turned out to be 30000 tons of Japanese naval steel).
Furthermore, do big ships disappear from the game once they have been sunk? For example, another (?) Hiryu was moored at exactly the same place in Hiroshima harbour when I came back a patrol later.

Best,
Brett

propbeanie · 01-06-18, 12:29 PM

Anchored ships, especially in stock, will regenerate, either upon your next game start, or upon the next spawn cycle (which wildly varies). It is next to impossible to "eliminate" a ship as sunk-is-sunk in the game, without outside intervention. Besides "bases", there were also fueling stations, anchorages, etc. where you might find a ship anchored. There were four main naval districts, Maizuru on the west Coast, Sasebo (Nagasaki) on the West end, Kure (Inland Sea) and Yokosuka (Tokyo). However, just the Inland Sea itself probably held over a dozen "bases" and the submarine training school... You start adding in the Mandates and conquered territories after Feb 1942, and there are a lot of places that are "bases". I'd guess about 3 dozen or more. The game itself on the Fleet Boat side does not attempt to go beyond what you would find in the Jap_HarborTraffic.mis file in the Data / Campaigns / Campaign folder to simulate the "bases". Nothing is listed as a "base" in there, but you do see the "docked" ships that you found. That file would be different between different mods.

Brett Sinclair · 01-06-18, 01:17 PM

Thank you.
I already decided to not kill "the other" Hiryu, and now I will continue to spare identical ships at identical places.

Best,
Brett

fireftr18 · 01-08-18, 07:18 PM

Sometimes I like to camp out at the Bungo Straights and sink multiple Hiryus.

Red Devil · 01-11-18, 07:08 PM

try luzon straits at night, you will see the ghost ship. Its not been mentioned for a while but the are extensive posts in here on this.

razark · 01-11-18, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

Its not been mentioned for a while but the are extensive posts in here on this.

It's not been mentioned, because it's all lies!

Don't be fooled by their silly ghost stories and doctored screenshots! The ghost ship is as fake as Japanese aircraft carriers! None of them exist!

propbeanie · 01-11-18, 10:55 PM

Poor razark just hasn't been the same since his encounter with the Flying Dutchman...

razark · 01-12-18, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Poor razark just hasn't been the same since his encounter with the Flying Dutchman...

Indeed.

Here's my favorite picture of my close encounter with it:

mikesn9 · 01-12-18, 06:25 AM

I must say, I have seen the ghost ship. It is really there. Nothing regular, just once in a great while, and not every time I'm in the Luzon.

Red Devil · 01-12-18, 07:46 AM

I raced at flank to try and intercept it and got quite close, very cleverly made. Also watched a jap destroyer engage it.

Red Devil · 01-12-18, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razark

It's not been mentioned, because it's all lies!

Don't be fooled by their silly ghost stories and doctored screenshots! The ghost ship is as fake as Japanese aircraft carriers! None of them exist!

it turned into a UFO and flew past my cell window

propbeanie · 01-12-18, 03:27 PM

~~Coming soon (approx. 1815 local):~~
Here now for your viewing pleasure (or horror, as the case may be):

containing irrefutable evidence...

~~Stay tuned to your local SubSim thread~~...

You may wonder "Why the engine sound? I though they used sails?!?!!" Why, all the better to hear him by, my dearie! But seriously, should we get rid of the sound of him in FotRSU (you'd lose the sonar detection), and who wants working guns back? They are there on the decks, but didn't shoot at the "enemy" in this video... I was somewhat disappointed. I thought the Dutchman would at least "ZZZOTT!!!" them with a blue-green lightning bolt, and a hail of armor-piercing cannon shot!...

razark · 01-12-18, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

containing irrefutable evidence...

So, now we're just going to start posting clips from the new Run Silent, Run Deep remake to further the lies?

propbeanie · 01-12-18, 08:01 PM

Do ya like though, how he just drives right through the middle of that group, all the while they're shooting at him, and hitting each other?...

razark · 01-12-18, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Do ya like though, how he just drives right through the middle of that group, all the while they're shooting at him, and hitting each other?...

While fake (as evidenced by the presence of those fictional aircraft carriers), that was pretty good.

01-06-18, 12:29 PM	#17
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,106 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Anchored ships, especially in stock, will regenerate, either upon your next game start, or upon the next spawn cycle (which wildly varies). It is next to impossible to "eliminate" a ship as sunk-is-sunk in the game, without outside intervention. Besides "bases", there were also fueling stations, anchorages, etc. where you might find a ship anchored. There were four main naval districts, Maizuru on the west Coast, Sasebo (Nagasaki) on the West end, Kure (Inland Sea) and Yokosuka (Tokyo). However, just the Inland Sea itself probably held over a dozen "bases" and the submarine training school... You start adding in the Mandates and conquered territories after Feb 1942, and there are a lot of places that are "bases". I'd guess about 3 dozen or more. The game itself on the Fleet Boat side does not attempt to go beyond what you would find in the Jap_HarborTraffic.mis file in the Data / Campaigns / Campaign folder to simulate the "bases". Nothing is listed as a "base" in there, but you do see the "docked" ships that you found. That file would be different between different mods. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

01-08-18, 07:18 PM	#19
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Sometimes I like to camp out at the Bungo Straights and sink multiple Hiryus. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

01-11-18, 07:08 PM	#20
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	try luzon straits at night, you will see the ghost ship. Its not been mentioned for a while but the are extensive posts in here on this. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

01-11-18, 10:55 PM	#22
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,106 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Poor razark just hasn't been the same since his encounter with the Flying Dutchman... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

01-12-18, 07:46 AM	#25
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	I raced at flank to try and intercept it and got quite close, very cleverly made. Also watched a jap destroyer engage it. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

01-06-18, 12:06 PM	#16
Brett Sinclair Loader Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Davy Jones’ Locker Posts: 89 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	I have another one: I currently command USS Balao and went out to capital ship hunting. What are the IJN naval bases in SH4? So far, I sunk the Hiryu and Fuso moored at Hiroshima harbour, and the Shokaku when it patrolled the entrance to Kobe bay (I thought it was a DD when it appeared on the radar, but to my amazement it turned out to be 30000 tons of Japanese naval steel). Furthermore, do big ships disappear from the game once they have been sunk? For example, another (?) Hiryu was moored at exactly the same place in Hiroshima harbour when I came back a patrol later. Best, Brett

01-06-18, 01:17 PM	#18
Brett Sinclair Loader Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Davy Jones’ Locker Posts: 89 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Thank you. I already decided to not kill "the other" Hiryu, and now I will continue to spare identical ships at identical places. Best, Brett

01-12-18, 06:25 AM	#24
mikesn9 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sarasota Florida Posts: 391 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	I must say, I have seen the ghost ship. It is really there. Nothing regular, just once in a great while, and not every time I'm in the Luzon.

01-12-18, 03:27 PM	#27
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,106 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	~~Coming soon (approx. 1815 local):~~ Here now for your viewing pleasure (or horror, as the case may be): containing irrefutable evidence... ~~Stay tuned to your local SubSim thread~~... You may wonder "Why the engine sound? I though they used sails?!?!!" Why, all the better to hear him by, my dearie! But seriously, should we get rid of the sound of him in FotRSU (you'd lose the sonar detection), and who wants working guns back? They are there on the decks, but didn't shoot at the "enemy" in this video... I was somewhat disappointed. I thought the Dutchman would at least "ZZZOTT!!!" them with a blue-green lightning bolt, and a hail of armor-piercing cannon shot!... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna Last edited by propbeanie; 01-12-18 at 06:17 PM. Reason: The video is up!

01-12-18, 08:01 PM	#29
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,106 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Do ya like though, how he just drives right through the middle of that group, all the while they're shooting at him, and hitting each other?... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna