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Old 07-04-17, 06:29 AM   #16
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Just looking at a map of the names of towns etc. should tell you we haven't actually left
True, but they drive on the wrong side of the road.
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IIRC, there was little love lost between the two gentlemen and one of them, on his deathbed, not knowing the other was also in his final hours, loudly bemoaned the other would survive him. Now, that was a grudge...
I don't think you do recall correctly. Adams and Jefferson were friends up until Adams' presidency. Jefferson opposed Adams' agreement to the 'Alien and Sedition Acts' and then waged the bitter campaign of 1800. Abigail Adams never forgave Jefferson, and the two men drifted apart. When Abigail died in 1818, their mutual friend and fellow Founder Dr. Benjamin Rush urged Jefferson to write Adams a letter of consolation. In the eight years leading to their deaths the two exchanged many letters and renewed their friendship. I believe that Adams' last words (if he actually made them) were from joy rather than enmity.

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True, but they drive on the wrong side of the road.
The Right side is the wrong side. The Left side is the right side. Got it.
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Old 07-04-17, 09:06 AM   #18
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Happy Independence Day. Happy 4 of July. Have a great day USA from your friends up North.

I think you mean " best " or " greatest " friends up North.
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True, but they drive on the wrong side of the road.
Not true ... we drive on the right side of the road to keep from hitting the cars coming at us on the left side of the road. You English chaps drive on the left side of the road and even drive in the wrong seat, which is our passenger seat, in order to know that you are going to drive off of one of your narrow roads.

Why do you obey red right returning in shipping lanes and port and starboard on ships?
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HAPPY Independence day to all my American friends and others who celebrate this day.

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Three US Presidents have died on 4 July so far, all Founding Fathers and two on the same day: 4 July 1826, the 50th anniversary of the country’s foundation.

Thomas Jefferson’s later years were riddled with ill health and debt. The third President died at home in Virginia, aged 83, surrounded by his family.

That same day, John Adams, who had succeeded George Washington as President and masterminded the Declaration of Independence, also passed away at home in Quincy, Massachusetts, aged 85. Tragically, Adams consoled himself with the final words, “Thomas Jefferson survives”, the statesman mercifully unaware that his friend and fellow nation-builder had himself expired just hours earlier.

These men would be joined by the fifth President, James Monroe, who died on 4 July 1831.
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I don't think you do recall correctly. Adams and Jefferson were friends up until Adams' presidency. Jefferson opposed Adams' agreement to the 'Alien and Sedition Acts' and then waged the bitter campaign of 1800. Abigail Adams never forgave Jefferson, and the two men drifted apart. When Abigail died in 1818, their mutual friend and fellow Founder Dr. Benjamin Rush urged Jefferson to write Adams a letter of consolation. In the eight years leading to their deaths the two exchanged many letters and renewed their friendship. I believe that Adams' last words (if he actually made them) were from joy rather than enmity.

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Three US Presidents have died on 4 July so far, all Founding Fathers and two on the same day: 4 July 1826, the 50th anniversary of the country’s foundation.

Thomas Jefferson’s later years were riddled with ill health and debt. The third President died at home in Virginia, aged 83, surrounded by his family.

That same day, John Adams, who had succeeded George Washington as President and masterminded the Declaration of Independence, also passed away at home in Quincy, Massachusetts, aged 85. Tragically, Adams consoled himself with the final words, “Thomas Jefferson survives”, the statesman mercifully unaware that his friend and fellow nation-builder had himself expired just hours earlier.

These men would be joined by the fifth President, James Monroe, who died on 4 July 1831.

I do stand (or sit) corrected. My post was based on recollection and, as I age, that becomes a less reliable source. I had forgotten about the reconciliation and only remembered the conflict. My apologies...

As someone who has long touted the need to verify, I can only plead I was at the end of a long day and let expedience overrule reason...

Now, I must take my memory pills...

...hmm,... where did I put them, last?...




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I do stand (or sit) corrected. My post was based on recollection and, as I age, that becomes a less reliable source. I had forgotten about the reconciliation and only remembered the conflict. My apologies...

As someone who has long touted the need to verify, I can only plead I was at the end of a long day and let expedience overrule reason...

Now, I must take my memory pills...

...hmm,... where did I put them, last?...




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In other words ... you were wrong ... humble, humble, humble ... fits you
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Sarasota stores were soooooo empty this evening that I thought an anti-USA & anti-Trump rally must be going on. Surely all those Target customers weren't out celebrating Brexit 1776?
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Saw this interesting TV ad by Ancestry.com in observance of Independence Day:








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Just come across this on a friends Facebook page and couldn't resist



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Just come across this on a friends Facebook page and couldn't resist




Really ? You couldn't just be gracious like everyone else ?


Edit: BTW, we did The U.K a favor by giving Ricky Gervais a place to stay and hang out so England wouldn't have to deal with him.

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Which underlines the fact that the rebels, enemies and terrorists of today ...
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Here is a bit more of the story of the Ancestry.com TV ad and how it came about:

Founding Fathers' descendants unite 241 years later to re-create iconic painting --

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/founding...1-years-later/
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No Tea for the Yanks because you lot threw it away.
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