Erwin Rommel as peacekeeper - Page 2

Rockstar · 10-04-16, 04:03 PM

Meh, its best they forget. Its always easier to mold them into what you want if they dont remember the past.

Eichhörnchen · 10-04-16, 06:17 PM

It was painful to watch. I think I mentioned once before that my American nephew, on telling a school classmate about his relatives in England, was asked what language we speak

Méo · 10-04-16, 06:27 PM

Another great example of journalistic/intellectual rigor from a conservative medium...

At the very beginning he explains to his audience who was Erwin Rommel with Wikipedia article, quote and video footage keeping in mind that the viewer may not know who was that WWII General.

Of course, everyone on this forum knows who he was. But what about HIS audience, why did he show all those images from WWII?? or just be honest and show the same images to the students.

Ridiculous

10-04-16, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Media at it's finest.
Shove the microphone into someones face while minding their own business and then out of 200 people showing only 5 of those that were either too shocked about the sudden intrusion into personal space or genuine idiots.

And that's all there is to this nonsense, really.

Oberon · 10-04-16, 06:48 PM

There's a lot of this sort of stuff about, the whole "Oh look how stupid X are, they can't even identify Y". It's just made to make one group of people feel superior to another.

Méo · 10-04-16, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

There's a lot of this sort of stuff about, the whole "Oh look how stupid X are, they can't even identify Y". It's just made to make one group of people feel superior to another.

I wonder if Trump knows who Rommel was?

Don't want to start a new debate here, just kidding...

Eichhörnchen · 10-04-16, 11:42 PM

I suppose us older geezers just have to accept that the world has moved on big time, and not to expect youngsters to know the names of such as Rommel. it was extremely disingenuous of the interviewer to refer to him in the present tense and fool them into thinking he was still around.

Oberon · 10-05-16, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

I suppose us older geezers just have to accept that the world has moved on big time, and not to expect youngsters to know the names of such as Rommel. it was extremely disingenuous of the interviewer to refer to him in the present tense and fool them into thinking he was still around.

Journalistic tricks aside, I think it comes down to who you talk to. For example, even of the older post-war generation there will be many who have not heard of Rommel, and many in the younger generation who have. It depends not so much on age but their interests. There are a few young members on this forum and I imagine that they know who Rommel was.

Schroeder · 10-05-16, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Journalistic tricks aside, I think it comes down to who you talk to. For example, even of the older post-war generation there will be many who have not heard of Rommel, and many in the younger generation who have. It depends not so much on age but their interests. There are a few young members on this forum and I imagine that they know who Rommel was.

The question is also is it really important to know who Rommel was? I mean seriously why would non Germans (or even today's German) need to know a German Field Marshal from WWII? Why would any young German need to know who Patton or Montgomery were? It's not really important as long as they know who fought who in WWII and for what reason.
And if people think it's important then where do you draw the line? WWI leaders? 30 years war or all the way back to the Roman Empire?
As a matter of fact that stuff is just nice to know but nothing more. If they hadn't known who Hitler, Roosevelt, Churchill or Stalin were now THAT would have shocked me.

Betonov · 10-05-16, 06:26 AM

One thing to ad to Schroeder.

All this fixation on knowing facts, but as I remember school we werent taught hiw the economy works, how to prepare for a job interwiew, grow my own food, being a cautious consumer when shopping, personal finances and preparing emergency/secondary funds in case the primary income source is shut. Or how to respond if a fammily member falls ill, proper 112 (911) call, keeping a cool head when lost or just something as basic as preparing food.

And then we laugh because people cant remember who Simon Bolivar is, while ourselves cant even check the store fruit from good to one about to expire.

Knowing history is important but knowing all the little details is pointless outside solving crosswords.
Skills should be the focus. An employer doesnt care you can point Eritrea on the map, tax department wont leave you alone over a mistake because you can whistle the entire works of Chopin and knowing Mao Zedongs birthday wont save you when you slip during mountain hikes.

Just saying.

MaDef · 10-05-16, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

One thing to ad to Schroeder.

All this fixation on knowing facts, but as I remember school we werent taught hiw the economy works, how to prepare for a job interwiew, grow my own food, being a cautious consumer when shopping, personal finances and preparing emergency/secondary funds in case the primary income source is shut. Or how to respond if a fammily member falls ill, proper 112 (911) call, keeping a cool head when lost or just something as basic as preparing food.

And then we laugh because people cant remember who Simon Bolivar is, while ourselves cant even check the store fruit from good to one about to expire.

Knowing history is important but knowing all the little details is pointless outside solving crosswords.
Skills should be the focus. An employer doesnt care you can point Eritrea on the map, tax department wont leave you alone over a mistake because you can whistle the entire works of Chopin and knowing Mao Zedongs birthday wont save you when you slip during mountain hikes.

Just saying.

You're forgetting, book smart and common sense are two different things.

Schroeder · 10-05-16, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

You're forgetting, book smart and common sense are two different things.

I think he isn't forgetting but actually pointing exactly that out.

Betonov · 10-05-16, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

You're forgetting, book smart and common sense are two different things.

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

I think he isn't forgetting but actually pointing exactly that out.

Yeah, MaDef managed to compress what I said into one sentence.
For an introvert I sure do love to talk a lot

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Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,375 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	It was painful to watch. I think I mentioned once before that my American nephew, on telling a school classmate about his relatives in England, was asked what language we speak __________________

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Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,375 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I suppose us older geezers just have to accept that the world has moved on big time, and not to expect youngsters to know the names of such as Rommel. it was extremely disingenuous of the interviewer to refer to him in the present tense and fool them into thinking he was still around. __________________

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Meh, its best they forget. Its always easier to mold them into what you want if they dont remember the past.

10-04-16, 06:27 PM	#18
Méo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,153 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	Another great example of journalistic/intellectual rigor from a conservative medium... At the very beginning he explains to his audience who was Erwin Rommel with Wikipedia article, quote and video footage keeping in mind that the viewer may not know who was that WWII General. Of course, everyone on this forum knows who he was. But what about HIS audience, why did he show all those images from WWII?? or just be honest and show the same images to the students. Ridiculous

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	There's a lot of this sort of stuff about, the whole "Oh look how stupid X are, they can't even identify Y". It's just made to make one group of people feel superior to another.

10-05-16, 06:26 AM	#25
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	One thing to ad to Schroeder. All this fixation on knowing facts, but as I remember school we werent taught hiw the economy works, how to prepare for a job interwiew, grow my own food, being a cautious consumer when shopping, personal finances and preparing emergency/secondary funds in case the primary income source is shut. Or how to respond if a fammily member falls ill, proper 112 (911) call, keeping a cool head when lost or just something as basic as preparing food. And then we laugh because people cant remember who Simon Bolivar is, while ourselves cant even check the store fruit from good to one about to expire. Knowing history is important but knowing all the little details is pointless outside solving crosswords. Skills should be the focus. An employer doesnt care you can point Eritrea on the map, tax department wont leave you alone over a mistake because you can whistle the entire works of Chopin and knowing Mao Zedongs birthday wont save you when you slip during mountain hikes. Just saying.