United States Gives Internet Control To UN - Page 2

Schroeder · 10-01-16, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Pretty much anyone would be able to argue that point.

Do not confuse a POTUS having an opinion different from yours with hating a country. Do you really believe that someone could become president that truly hates his or her country?

There are many many things that I disagree with concerning Obama. Some of them I disagree in the strongest feelings. But I have not experienced anything that would lead me to think he hates this country.

You don't get it. You're not a conservative extremist = You hate America and eat little children...

Everybody knows that!

Buddahaid · 10-01-16, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

You don't get it. You're not a conservative extremist = You hate America and eat little children...

Everybody knows that!

Where have I heard that before?!? Just kidding.

Phrozin · 10-02-16, 10:16 AM

Perhaps I'm just being naive, but I can't see a problem here. the Domain Name Service is just that, it coverts names to ip addresses behind the scene and directs us. If for some reason the blowhards decide to sensor the address www.teensinbondage.com (I think that was one of the jokes I read) then all you'd have to do is WhoIs that domain and enter the ip instead. Basicly the same thing we did in the 80's and early 90's. As for Obama hating America, I don't think he actually does, but he sure as heck hasn't done it any favors. In my opinion he ranks up there with the most ineffectual presidents we've had. Now we have the prospect of another Nixon! Hip Hip hooray!

Torplexed · 10-02-16, 10:26 AM

Well, it's an election year and therefore most things said in a political context, even when apparently about technology, just melt into a bunch of partisan posturing.

Oberon · 10-02-16, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Well, it's an election year and therefore most things said in a political context, even when apparently about technology, just melt into a bunch of partisan posturing.

To be fair, the op hasn't exactly constrained themselves to just the election year.

Schroeder · 10-02-16, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

To be fair, the op hasn't exactly constrained themselves to just the election year.

Actually I was surprised how long he remained quiet considering how close we are to the election.

Oberon · 10-02-16, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

Actually I was surprised how long he remained quiet considering how close we are to the election.

Me too....

Platapus · 10-03-16, 03:22 PM

Perhaps he was unavoidably restrained.

Oberon · 10-03-16, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Perhaps he was unavoidably restrained.

That could be the straight truth to it, he perhaps was gone for a while with little but his jacket to wear.

Skybird · 10-04-16, 05:08 AM

Facts:

The US has given up decisive influence and the ability to block and to seriouls yinterfere with the ordinary web trafick system (like it also can switch off the GPS system used wordwide, in case of military interest recommendign that). This is a loss for the US.

Unfriendly states, interest groups lobbying for this and that, authoritarian regimes, can project greater influence in the above matters.

The globe's major server nodes still all sit in the US and are operated by Americans, and can be switched on and off by Americans.

Via the DNS you also can drastically interfere with global internet operations. That the US has accepted to weaken its position in this regard, does not mean it will easily give up the server node question, which is as decisve, if not more, than the control of DNS.

I still wonder, however, what Obama has gotten in return for this.

A non-American may welcome this step. But we should not forget that it comes at a cost. See second paragraph in this post. That Obama meant it well, maybe, does not automatically mean that something good will have come from this, in the end. Maybe yes, maybe no.

10-02-16, 10:16 AM	#18
Phrozin Bosun Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 68 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	?huh? Perhaps I'm just being naive, but I can't see a problem here. the Domain Name Service is just that, it coverts names to ip addresses behind the scene and directs us. If for some reason the blowhards decide to sensor the address www.teensinbondage.com (I think that was one of the jokes I read) then all you'd have to do is WhoIs that domain and enter the ip instead. Basicly the same thing we did in the 80's and early 90's. As for Obama hating America, I don't think he actually does, but he sure as heck hasn't done it any favors. In my opinion he ranks up there with the most ineffectual presidents we've had. Now we have the prospect of another Nixon! Hip Hip hooray! __________________ ~"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war." - Act 3, Scene 1 Julis Ceaser William Shakespeare [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

10-02-16, 10:26 AM	#19
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Well, it's an election year and therefore most things said in a political context, even when apparently about technology, just melt into a bunch of partisan posturing. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

10-03-16, 03:22 PM	#23
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Perhaps he was unavoidably restrained. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

10-04-16, 05:08 AM	#25
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,657 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Facts: The US has given up decisive influence and the ability to block and to seriouls yinterfere with the ordinary web trafick system (like it also can switch off the GPS system used wordwide, in case of military interest recommendign that). This is a loss for the US. Unfriendly states, interest groups lobbying for this and that, authoritarian regimes, can project greater influence in the above matters. The globe's major server nodes still all sit in the US and are operated by Americans, and can be switched on and off by Americans. Via the DNS you also can drastically interfere with global internet operations. That the US has accepted to weaken its position in this regard, does not mean it will easily give up the server node question, which is as decisve, if not more, than the control of DNS. I still wonder, however, what Obama has gotten in return for this. A non-American may welcome this step. But we should not forget that it comes at a cost. See second paragraph in this post. That Obama meant it well, maybe, does not automatically mean that something good will have come from this, in the end. Maybe yes, maybe no. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.