Military coup in Turkey

[Skybird]

Any outcome not including Erdoghan is a good outcome. Any outcome.

The EU will go crazy, however. I will find it most amusing.

The military has been massively infoltrated by Erdoghans followers in the past years. The outcome of this is anything but certain.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I hope he is spoiling his pants. Furthermore I hope the coup succeeds (it wont :/) and he gets lynched like Mussolini once.

Honestly, I wouldn't count the coup out, bear in mind that the military has always been quite Kemalist.
Erdogan won't be lynched though, that would just make him a martyr to his cause, but with any luck he'll be put on trial like Mubarak.

[Betonov]

Any thoughts that someone finally snaped down there due to Nice.
Got tired of Erdogans crap and decided to act.

Edit: Nevermind, probably fake.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Edit: Nevermind, probably fake.

I was just about to ponder that, been following this ones:

https://twitter.com/CNNTURK_ENG

https://twitter.com/EsraD

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-36811357

Also:

https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq/

EDIT: Erdogan has spoken to CNN Turkey via Facetime and has called on people to gather in airpots and squares to stand against the coup.

[mapuc]

1 Came this ongoing coup as a surprise for you ?

If not, tell me why

2 If a succes( the military takes 100 % control of the country)

What will happen to the region

I'm thinking of

The relationship to wards Israel
The relationship to ward Russia
The relationship to wards Daesh (some say the are working together with them)

Markus

I just want it to be true so much, I didn't bother reading anything further, I just... wanted it.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I just want it to be true so much, I didn't bother reading anything further, I just... wanted it.

I was ready to type ''praise Allah'' when you deleted it for being fake

[em2nought]

Attention US Military: Don't let Johnny Turk have all the fun, y'all might end up in rainbow colored uniforms next.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Any thoughts that someone finally snaped down there due to Nice.
Got tired of Erdogans crap and decided to act.

no, such things need time and preparation. months.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by mapuc

1 Came this ongoing coup as a surprise for you ?

If not, tell me why

2 If a succes( the military takes 100 % control of the country)

What will happen to the region

I'm thinking of

The relationship to wards Israel
The relationship to ward Russia
The relationship to wards Daesh (some say the are working together with them)

Markus

1) Honestly I did not, because I was under the impression (given by some here) that Erdogan had affective control over his armed forces and his dictatorial control was more or less complete.

2) International relations should thaw a little, there will probably be some nashing of teeth about it being a military coup but honestly dealing with a Kemalist military will be a breath of fresh air.
Daesh will get a kicking from Turkey if they poke their heads across the border. Things will Russia won't be too bad, there'll be a bit of tension but nothing serious, things were already starting to calm down recently anyway so the tensions after the shootdown have almost normalised and I doubt that this will change that much.
I'm intrigued as to how things with the PKK are going to work out.


Oh...and here's one for Nippelspanner, Schroeder and Skybird to enjoy...

Reports indicate Erdogan is seeking asylum in Germany...

If this is true, I want him to be forced to live in Böhmermann's house.
(The guy who wrote that infamous poem about the dear leader and was heavily attacked for it by Erdogan)

[Oberon]

Certainly though this does tell us one thing, that this coup is succeeding, if Erdogan is fleeing this early. This has come up on the Beeb feed:

A European Union source tells the Reuters news agency: "It looks like a relatively well orchestrated coup by a substantial body of the military, not just a few colonels." "They control several strategic points in Istanbul. Given the scale of the operation, it is difficult to imagine they will stop short of prevailing," the source adds.

Unfortunately there have also been reports of explosions, gunfire and skirmishes between the police and military, so this is far from a bloodless coup...but I think we all knew that if it happened it wouldn't be.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I just want it to be true so much, I didn't bother reading anything further, I just... wanted it.

True, Kemal Atatürk intended the military to be the watchdog against dictatorship. After Erdoghan's latest actions against the military, his companies' links to DAESH, and his potentate self portrayal, a coup d'état would make sense.

Please don't tell me it is a fake report