Fuel needed

VIPer530 · 04-02-16, 06:51 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm pretty new to this game, and on my first patrol near Japan. I refueled my boat at Midway, but still, arriving at Japan, more than 50 % of my Diesel is gone. So certainly I'm not gonna make it back.
I tried to get Diesel in some of the smaller harbours, since the handbook says you can get Diesel in neutral harbours. But when I arrive there, nothing happens. Is there any trick I should know?

The Japanese have taken Manila out, and I'm not gonna make it to Soerabaja.
Is that the end of my patrol? If so, what did I do wrong?
> 50% of the Diesel were gone when I arrived in my target area, that's a fact.
Any suggestions?

Thanks!

cdrsubron7 · 04-02-16, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPer530

Hey everyone,

I'm pretty new to this game, and on my first patrol near Japan. I refueled my boat at Midway, but still, arriving at Japan, more than 50 % of my Diesel is gone. So certainly I'm not gonna make it back.
I tried to get Diesel in some of the smaller harbours, since the handbook says you can get Diesel in neutral harbours. But when I arrive there, nothing happens. Is there any trick I should know?

The Japanese have taken Manila out, and I'm not gonna make it to Soerabaja.
Is that the end of my patrol? If so, what did I do wrong?
> 50% of the Diesel were gone when I arrived in my target area, that's a fact.
Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Welcome to our little insane asylum, VIPer530. Happy to have you with us.

As to your question, the first thing is to know what speeds your sub burns more fuel at. The best for traveling long distances, say from Midway to whatever patrol area your headed for is 10 knots. That will get you there and back with no problems. Depending on what version of the game and what mods will determine what speed you have to use.

As for your patrol being over you can always go back in and start your patrol over. ComSubPac will not say anything, I promise.

VIPer530 · 04-02-16, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

As to your question, the first thing is to know what speeds your sub burns more fuel at. The best for traveling long distances, say from Midway to whatever patrol area your headed for is 10 knots. That will get you there and back with no problems. Depending on what version of the game and what mods will determine what speed you have to use.

As for your patrol being over you can always go back in and start your patrol over. ComSubPac will not say anything, I promise.

Hey, thanks for the welcome!

Ok, I went too fast, point taken. But now, is there no way to save me? I did quite well for a rookie!

Don't want to loose all my achivements

So running into any random harbour won't buy me any fuel? Is it really only the big bases I can use to stock up? The handbok seems to say different.

cdrsubron7 · 04-02-16, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPer530

Hey, thanks for the welcome!

Ok, I went too fast, point taken. But now, is there no way to save me? I did quite well for a rookie!

Don't want to loose all my achivements

So running into any random harbour won't buy me any fuel? Is it really only the big bases I can use to stock up? The handbok seems to say different.

I can understand your not wanting to loose what you've sunk sofar on your patrol, I would feel the same way. What is the date your currently at in your patrol, that will give me an idea as to where the closet base to refuel might be for you.

As the Pacific war progresses advance bases are established closer to Japan, but none of them might not be available to you if you started at the beginning of the war with your current career.

VIPer530 · 04-02-16, 07:50 PM

Yeah I did start at the beginning. January 1st, 1942.
New Years Eve and I will have to tell the crew that we're not gonna make it home. Great!

And we'll get stranded only 500 Nm from Soerabaja.
Can we stitch some clothes together and build a sail?

cdrsubron7 · 04-02-16, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPer530

Yeah I did start at the beginning. January 1st, 1942.
New Years Eve and I will have to tell the crew that we're not gonna make it home. Great!

And we'll get stranded only 500 Nm from Soerabaja.
Can we stitch some clothes together and build a sail?

Don't know what else to say. It might be a long war stuck in a Japanese Internment Camp though. Don't quit before you exhaust all avenues of hope.

Good Luck!

flyer102 · 04-21-16, 05:48 PM

Higher speeds burn up more fuel, such as going at full or flanking speed setting.

For going longer distances, I would recommend 1/3 speed, or standard.

Unlike U-Boats where 1/3 speed is the most fuel efficient, for American subs, in most cases it standard speed that I recommended if you want to conserve a fair amount of fuel, without taking forever to get there.

Theoretically, going at the slowest speed possible is the most fuel efficient. For instance going ahead 1 knot will be THE most fuel efficient, however if you value your time and sanity, don't go 1 knot when your traveling over 2-3k miles.

Barkerov · 04-21-16, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by flyer102

Theoretically, going at the slowest speed possible is the most fuel efficient. For instance going ahead 1 knot will be THE most fuel efficient, however if you value your time and sanity, don't go 1 knot when your traveling over 2-3k miles.

What you said before this is true but this statement is not, or at least it shouldn't be. All engines, regardless of type, have an optimal speed at which range is maximized. You can find this in SH4 for each sub by setting the knotometer yourself using medium TC for a couple of seconds so that your speed stabilizes and then ask the navigator what your maximum range at current speed is.

I have found for fleet boats this is about 10.5 knots and for the S-class 7.5 knots

mikesn9 · 04-22-16, 10:11 AM

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What you said before this is true but this statement is not, or at least it shouldn't be. All engines, regardless of type, have an optimal speed at which range is maximized. You can find this in SH4 for each sub by setting the knotometer yourself using medium TC for a couple of seconds so that your speed stabilizes and then ask the navigator what your maximum range at current speed is.

How does one "ask the Navigator" for this information?

aanker · 04-22-16, 11:23 AM

As has been posted before many times, 10 - 11 knots is the most fuel efficient speed in the Stock unmodded 1.5 0r 1.4 game - for fleetboats if you want to go anywhere - ha! The S-Class are a different story.

Some mods activate the command that answers the question of how far your boat can travel at the current speed. You can edit a couple files and make this command active yourself. It's a couple of simple text edits.

Speak up if you want to learn how,

Happy Hunting!

Barkerov · 04-23-16, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesn9

How does one "ask the Navigator" for this information?

When you are plotting waypoints it is the 6th button from the left. If you hover over it, it says maximum range

04-02-16, 06:51 PM	#1
VIPer530 Watch Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 16 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Fuel needed Hey everyone, I'm pretty new to this game, and on my first patrol near Japan. I refueled my boat at Midway, but still, arriving at Japan, more than 50 % of my Diesel is gone. So certainly I'm not gonna make it back. I tried to get Diesel in some of the smaller harbours, since the handbook says you can get Diesel in neutral harbours. But when I arrive there, nothing happens. Is there any trick I should know? The Japanese have taken Manila out, and I'm not gonna make it to Soerabaja. Is that the end of my patrol? If so, what did I do wrong? > 50% of the Diesel were gone when I arrived in my target area, that's a fact. Any suggestions? Thanks!

04-21-16, 05:48 PM	#7
flyer102 Bosun Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Depth charged 180m below Posts: 62 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Consider What Speed You're At Higher speeds burn up more fuel, such as going at full or flanking speed setting. For going longer distances, I would recommend 1/3 speed, or standard. Unlike U-Boats where 1/3 speed is the most fuel efficient, for American subs, in most cases it standard speed that I recommended if you want to conserve a fair amount of fuel, without taking forever to get there. Theoretically, going at the slowest speed possible is the most fuel efficient. For instance going ahead 1 knot will be THE most fuel efficient, however if you value your time and sanity, don't go 1 knot when your traveling over 2-3k miles.

04-22-16, 11:23 AM	#10
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	As has been posted before many times, 10 - 11 knots is the most fuel efficient speed in the Stock unmodded 1.5 0r 1.4 game - for fleetboats if you want to go anywhere - ha! The S-Class are a different story. Some mods activate the command that answers the question of how far your boat can travel at the current speed. You can edit a couple files and make this command active yourself. It's a couple of simple text edits. Speak up if you want to learn how, Happy Hunting! __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

04-02-16, 07:50 PM	#5
VIPer530 Watch Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 16 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Yeah I did start at the beginning. January 1st, 1942. New Years Eve and I will have to tell the crew that we're not gonna make it home. Great! And we'll get stranded only 500 Nm from Soerabaja. Can we stitch some clothes together and build a sail?