US town rejects solar farm - Page 2

Aktungbby · 12-16-15, 01:18 PM

On the way to mom-in-laws' house near palm springs

& worse nearby at san Gorgonio Pass

AVGWarhawk · 12-16-15, 02:44 PM

Sheesh...waiting on scientific reports on what these wind farms do to the environment. I'm sure there is something. Bird kills, disrupted breeding of the Blue Booby or sonar disruption of the bottle nosed dolphin.

Betonov · 12-16-15, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Sheesh...waiting on scientific reports on what these wind farms do to the environment. I'm sure there is something. Bird kills, disrupted breeding of the Blue Booby or sonar disruption of the bottle nosed dolphin.

Forget that. The amount of chemicals needed to produce one windmill blade is abhoring.
We made master models and ended up with tons of waste, non-reacted resin, used paint thiner, bad batches etc. and then someone has to make the mould and then someone has to make the blade. Not to mention our CNC milling machine used more power than a windmill will generate in 5 years.

Rockstar · 12-16-15, 04:42 PM

http://www.safeforsomerset.org

We had us a good old fashioned uprising here in Somerset County some very knowledgable people banded together and threw the money grubbing bums out.

If you hear about wind farms coming to a town near you. I recommend you read some at the link above.

STEED · 12-16-15, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

We had us a good old fashioned uprising here in Somerset County people banded together and threw the green energy bums out.

Well Done.

Pisces · 12-16-15, 05:27 PM

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She also said no one had proved solar panels didn’t cause cancer.

Well, go stand in the sun as much as you want all day. I'm sure it will do good for your complexion. I'll be happy to stand under the panels and catch all of those cancer rays.

August · 12-16-15, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

http://www.safeforsomerset.org

We had us a good old fashioned uprising here in Somerset County some very knowledgable people banded together and threw the money grubbing bums out.

If you hear about wind farms coming to a town near you. I recommend you read some at the link above.

Yeah we tried to fight it too but lost.

https://www.facebook.com/BrakeWind/

u crank · 12-16-15, 07:25 PM

Here on Prince Edward Island wind energy is a big deal. Our little island has no natural energy sources. Currently we buy energy form neighboring New Brunswick and it is delivered via cable under the Northumberland Strait. Most of that power is produced at the Point Lepreau Nuclear Generating Station. One thing we do have though is wind and lots of it. Currently 30% of our energy supply comes from wind energy and the plan is to get it to much higher levels. That means wind farms every where. There has been some opposition but the options for energy are limited here.

Funny thing about these wind farms. Last year my Daughter bought an old house next to the Hermanville wind farm. She made a nice little summer cottage out of it with lots of free labor from Dad. Since the house was there before the wind farm was built, she gets paid compensation from the company that built the farm. That compensation pays a substantial part of the mortgage on her property. I like it.

vienna · 12-16-15, 08:27 PM

The tax credits being taken by the solar panel companies applies only if you lease the panels or have some sort of set up where you by the power from the solar companies in much the same way you pay for power from conventional sources. I don't know if it's the same everywhere in the US, but here, in California, if you buy and own the panels, you get the tax credits and any other credits that apply, not the solar company. In fact, there have been programs where excess power generated by privately owned home solar setups is fed back into the power grid and the homeowner either gets a credit on any power they may take from the grid, or, if they are entirely power self-sufficient, they receive payment for the excess power. There is one veteran-owned solar panel sales and installation company in Southern California whose ads make a sales point of the customers getting all applicable credits, not the what they call in their ads "the Wall Street Guys"...

The rise in electrical rates here in CA is due mainly to the power companies losing a substantial and growing amount of revenue as more and more homes and businesses are moving to self-sufficiency. As the revenues decrease, the power companies, rather than practice efficiencies and economies, are trying to make up for the shortfalls by raising the rates on conventional customers. A lot of the consumers in CA are beginning to call to question the actual need for these hikes and the burden placed upon the non-alternative base. It is going to be interesting to see how it all shakes out down the line...

An analog for the power companies shortfall woes can be found in those states where a substantial portion of revenue is derived from vehicle fuel taxes. The rising popularity of alternative fuel cars, electric, hybrid, CNG, etc., coupled with higher mileage efficient conventional engine cars is decreasing the sales of gasoline and diesel to such an extent state and local governments are fretting over their own shortfalls. As people are becoming more self-contained in their lives, the traditional modes of operations of business and government are fading and the power is going to the newer technologies and methods. Now that companies that once looked down their snouts at electric and hybrid vehicles such as Mercedes, Porsche, and BMW are fully embracing and devoting more of their R&D resources to that which they once disdained, it is only a matter of time until alternative vehicles will be far more common everyday. I would hate to be holding oil company stock in, say, twenty-five or so years from now...

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Sheesh...waiting on scientific reports on what these wind farms do to the environment. I'm sure there is something. Bird kills, disrupted breeding of the Blue Booby or sonar disruption of the bottle nosed dolphin. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-16-15, 07:25 PM	#23
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,745 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Here on Prince Edward Island wind energy is a big deal. Our little island has no natural energy sources. Currently we buy energy form neighboring New Brunswick and it is delivered via cable under the Northumberland Strait. Most of that power is produced at the Point Lepreau Nuclear Generating Station. One thing we do have though is wind and lots of it. Currently 30% of our energy supply comes from wind energy and the plan is to get it to much higher levels. That means wind farms every where. There has been some opposition but the options for energy are limited here. Funny thing about these wind farms. Last year my Daughter bought an old house next to the Hermanville wind farm. She made a nice little summer cottage out of it with lots of free labor from Dad. Since the house was there before the wind farm was built, she gets paid compensation from the company that built the farm. That compensation pays a substantial part of the mortgage on her property. I like it. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

12-16-15, 08:27 PM	#24
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,712 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The tax credits being taken by the solar panel companies applies only if you lease the panels or have some sort of set up where you by the power from the solar companies in much the same way you pay for power from conventional sources. I don't know if it's the same everywhere in the US, but here, in California, if you buy and own the panels, you get the tax credits and any other credits that apply, not the solar company. In fact, there have been programs where excess power generated by privately owned home solar setups is fed back into the power grid and the homeowner either gets a credit on any power they may take from the grid, or, if they are entirely power self-sufficient, they receive payment for the excess power. There is one veteran-owned solar panel sales and installation company in Southern California whose ads make a sales point of the customers getting all applicable credits, not the what they call in their ads "the Wall Street Guys"... The rise in electrical rates here in CA is due mainly to the power companies losing a substantial and growing amount of revenue as more and more homes and businesses are moving to self-sufficiency. As the revenues decrease, the power companies, rather than practice efficiencies and economies, are trying to make up for the shortfalls by raising the rates on conventional customers. A lot of the consumers in CA are beginning to call to question the actual need for these hikes and the burden placed upon the non-alternative base. It is going to be interesting to see how it all shakes out down the line... An analog for the power companies shortfall woes can be found in those states where a substantial portion of revenue is derived from vehicle fuel taxes. The rising popularity of alternative fuel cars, electric, hybrid, CNG, etc., coupled with higher mileage efficient conventional engine cars is decreasing the sales of gasoline and diesel to such an extent state and local governments are fretting over their own shortfalls. As people are becoming more self-contained in their lives, the traditional modes of operations of business and government are fading and the power is going to the newer technologies and methods. Now that companies that once looked down their snouts at electric and hybrid vehicles such as Mercedes, Porsche, and BMW are fully embracing and devoting more of their R&D resources to that which they once disdained, it is only a matter of time until alternative vehicles will be far more common everyday. I would hate to be holding oil company stock in, say, twenty-five or so years from now... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

12-16-15, 04:42 PM	#19
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	http://www.safeforsomerset.org We had us a good old fashioned uprising here in Somerset County some very knowledgable people banded together and threw the money grubbing bums out. If you hear about wind farms coming to a town near you. I recommend you read some at the link above.