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Old 12-28-14, 09:35 AM   #1
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Hi Guys

I hope you all had a great Christmas and are looking forward to the New Year's Eve festivities

I have a quick question. I have recently started playing SH3 with the NYGM mod, and it's great However, is the threat of surface vessels detecting your sub accurate? The reason I ask is that a few years back I remember downloading a mod that seemed more accurate. i.e. at the start of the war the RN detection was poor, but improved as time advanced. I felt this mod was accurate. It was great to experience the rising challenge of detection avoidance as the war years progressed and RN ASDIC technology improved

Does anyone know what this mod was? Is the NYGM mod set too aggressively for the early war period?

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Old 12-29-14, 05:01 AM   #2
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Welcome to the forum. Yeah NYGM is tough from the start. If they find you they will hound you for hours. The Royal Navy was able to do that during the early war but there was no hunter killer groups and there was a shortage of destroyers. The co-operation between the destroyers was still a bit unco-ordinated. Try GWX or LSH and if you get bored with the challenge they bring then switch to NYGM.
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Old 12-29-14, 08:01 AM   #3
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There were a number of reasons why the U-boats had an easier time during 1939-40. The RN ASW forces had deficiencies tactically, operationally, and strategically. But I can't recall ever reading that either ASDIC hardware or operators were ineffective in that period. I'm currently re-reading Blair (Vol 1) and well into 1941, and he didn't mention problems with ASDIC in the early years. From what I have read, ASDIC did become even more effective as the war went on, but it doesn't seem to have been ineffective early on.

It seems you may have based your perception on a mod which, while designed to give an interesting gaming experience, was not reflective of historical capabilities. As sublynx said, either GWX or LSH will give you a less stressful experience.

Wish I could remember who wrote it: "NYGM doesn't have the best graphics, but it gives you a nice, accurate death."
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Old 12-29-14, 10:37 AM   #4
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...and remember. RN destroyers scored U-boat kills already during first month of the war...

Good tip for avoiding escorts in NYGM. DO NOT USE (too much) TC!
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Good tip for avoiding escorts in NYGM. DO NOT USE (too much) TC!
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Old 12-29-14, 11:58 AM   #6
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Yeah 24 U-boats were destroyed in 1940–an average of two a month. U-31 was actually sunk twice in 1940.

Eight lost to mines (or just missing... assumed mines).
Two to accidents.
Two to aircraft.
Twelve to warships.
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Old 01-03-15, 10:36 AM   #7
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Hi Guys

I hope you all had a great Christmas and are looking forward to the New Year's Eve festivities

I have a quick question. I have recently started playing SH3 with the NYGM mod, and it's great However, is the threat of surface vessels detecting your sub accurate? The reason I ask is that a few years back I remember downloading a mod that seemed more accurate. i.e. at the start of the war the RN detection was poor, but improved as time advanced. I felt this mod was accurate. It was great to experience the rising challenge of detection avoidance as the war years progressed and RN ASDIC technology improved

Does anyone know what this mod was? Is the NYGM mod set too aggressively for the early war period?

Cheers

Drew
It's also difficult to escape because of the hydrophone the escorts are using. If u got your enigines at slow speed they can still hear you, but setting it to 1 knot manually can help a lot.

I'm don't know the name of the mod.


@Zosimus Thank you for posting your insight about into your knowledge about anti submarine warfare. Personally I did find it interesting.
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