Worlds biggest sea port to be built by China and Russia - Page 2

Dread Knot · 09-17-14, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

That is a good question it does no provide an exact location beyond the fact that it is near North Korea and is on the Russian Sea of Japan Coast. Vladivostok is already in this same general area and is not far from the Chinese-Russian border so why not simply expand and modernize there?

I recon infrastructure though Vladivostok is the major Russian city in this region which would mean that it has the best available infrastructure. Of course this port will be used to transport natural gas so I assume that they chose an area other than Vladivostok but in the same region to facilitate the construction of pipe lines and facilities that perhaps would be too much trouble in Vladivostok which is already pretty crowded.

Thanks for the info. If I recall Vladivostok, like San Francisco is built on a series of steep hills, so maybe that is a limiting factor.

I'd also be curious to know if there is any environmental opposition. Here in the States, even shipping Wyoming coal through existing West coast seaports to China has gotten people angry and riled up. Building a whole new seaport would never get off the ground. Heck, we can't even get a pipeline built through the most conservative section of the country.

Stealhead · 09-17-14, 06:07 PM

Well I was taking an educated guess from what I have seen in photos and on Google Earth Vladivostok looks to be fairly congested and not an ideal location.

I wonder if the gas lines will go through Russia or come down through China and end at the port I assume that they will run down through China that would be much more cost effective.Start in Russia and come down through China over to the port.

ikalugin · 09-18-14, 02:02 AM

Vladivostok is indeed built on the hills (been there during the summer of 2013) and had some infrustructure isssues, though some of them were improved for the sammit/forum (forgot which one exactly) that happened there, so the airport and relevant stuff is quite well done as far as I could tell.

However you would use rail and pipelines anyway for the cargo port, so I dont think that the road network matters.

Rail network wise it is where double tracked Tran Siberian ends, it is connected by a rail to North Korea but not to China (and the local geography would mean that building a rail link to China would be somewhat costly).

Enviromental issues that would arise with the port wont matter I think, as Vladivostok has garbage disposal issues already amongst other things.

09-17-14, 06:07 PM	#17
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well I was taking an educated guess from what I have seen in photos and on Google Earth Vladivostok looks to be fairly congested and not an ideal location. I wonder if the gas lines will go through Russia or come down through China and end at the port I assume that they will run down through China that would be much more cost effective.Start in Russia and come down through China over to the port.

09-18-14, 02:02 AM	#18
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Vladivostok is indeed built on the hills (been there during the summer of 2013) and had some infrustructure isssues, though some of them were improved for the sammit/forum (forgot which one exactly) that happened there, so the airport and relevant stuff is quite well done as far as I could tell. However you would use rail and pipelines anyway for the cargo port, so I dont think that the road network matters. Rail network wise it is where double tracked Tran Siberian ends, it is connected by a rail to North Korea but not to China (and the local geography would mean that building a rail link to China would be somewhat costly). Enviromental issues that would arise with the port wont matter I think, as Vladivostok has garbage disposal issues already amongst other things.