Korean War memorial... a memorial that deserves to be forgotten? - Page 2

Flamebatter90 · 06-03-14, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Production was outsourced to India...

There's your problem.

Schroeder · 06-03-14, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamebatter90

There's your problem.

Not at all. The production is done with the plans they were given. If you get a contract and a blueprint (or whatever you use for those stones) you'll build it the way your customer wants it whether it makes sense to you or not. The problem is that the committees in the US have not had a closer look at the plans or were simply ignorant of the stuff they saw. The least guilty party is the stone mason in India who build this cluster fart.

Subnuts · 06-03-14, 08:49 AM

Well, they've finally done it: produced something with more historical inaccuracies than U-571.

Flamebatter90 · 06-03-14, 08:50 AM

Schroeder: Yeah, you are right. I was just trying to be funny.

The article says they (the veterans group) had a chance to review the proposed design before it was built, why no one pointed out the flaws is baffling.

Dread Knot · 06-03-14, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Not at all. The production is done with the plans they were given. If you get a contract and a blueprint (or whatever you use for those stones) you'll build it the way your customer wants it whether it makes sense to you or not. The problem is that the committees in the US have not had a closer look at the plans or were simply ignorant of the stuff they saw. The least guilty party is the stone mason in India who build this cluster fart.

I guess we could place some blame on the artist. They are supposed to do their research. Although, artist seems too fancy a term for someone who probably just slapped a Photoshop montage together, and maybe would have never heard of the Korean War if not for old M*A*S*H re-runs. But all this had to be approved, signed-off on, and was. Whoever did the actual laser-etching is the least to blame. The design was even featured on tee-shirts during the fund-raising. I just wonder if the vets were so anxious to get a monument up before they passed away, that they just weren't that picky.

Aktungbby · 06-03-14, 12:57 PM

Excerpt from Ross county paper might reveal real source of problemo: OUTSOURCING!"

"""Darby said he called Strausbaugh in April to express his concerns with the memorial’s imagery and received assurances that the changes would be made. But by that point, the memorial already had been completed and was being shipped by boat from a manufacturing facility in India to the U.S., said Doug Hayburn, owner of Southern Ohio Monument Company in Chillicothe.
The memorial committee purchased the monument through Southern Ohio Monument Company, which contracted with a Savannah, Georgia-based company for its design and production, Hayburn said.
Because granite is often sourced in India, the company has an imaging operation there as well, Hayburn said. In the case of the Korean War memorial, the imaging was done in India and then the monument was shipped to the U.S., a process that can take up to 120 days for shipping and another 30 days to go through customs, he said.
“The reason they weren’t able to make the changes is because (the memorial) had been made and was already in transit,” Hayburn said.""" As for a name being missed, that gets done -and corrected- all the time on the Viet Nam memorial as the omissions are perceived and should be attended to with a new name plaque. I find it hard to think our war memorials are outsourced too. Neal had a thread about buying an American made knife...I would think having American made memorials to our honored dead would be a minimum requirement. "Vox populi; vox humbug!"- William Tecumsah Sherman 6/2/1863 was never more appropriate as 'fast and cheap', however well meaning, appears to have ruled the day here!

Dread Knot · 06-03-14, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Because granite is often sourced in India, the company has an imaging operation there as well, Hayburn said. In the case of the Korean War memorial, the imaging was done in India

As I suspected. The image was just cobbled together in India with internetz photos by a guy who probably didn't know Douglas MacArthur from Hawkeye Pierce.

But Chillicothe still approved it.

Jimbuna · 06-04-14, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subnuts

Well, they've finally done it: produced something with more historical inaccuracies than U-571.

Contender for post of the week

AVGWarhawk · 06-04-14, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

The Martin Luther King monument was carved in China. It's quite likely this error-riddled slab was cranked out overseas too. I guess that's what we get for outsourcing our history. I'm just somewhat stunned the Korean War veterans approved it.

Outsourcing really has become a issue with a lot of products and services.

06-03-14, 08:49 AM	#18
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Well, they've finally done it: produced something with more historical inaccuracies than U-571. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

06-03-14, 12:57 PM	#21
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,997 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	well most of our flags are made in China too! Excerpt from Ross county paper might reveal real source of problemo: OUTSOURCING!" """Darby said he called Strausbaugh in April to express his concerns with the memorial’s imagery and received assurances that the changes would be made. But by that point, the memorial already had been completed and *was being shipped by boat from a manufacturing facility in India to the U.S., said Doug Hayburn, owner of Southern Ohio Monument Company in Chillicothe.* The memorial committee purchased the monument through Southern Ohio Monument Company, which contracted with a Savannah, Georgia-based company for its design and production, Hayburn said. Because granite is often sourced in India, the company has an imaging operation there as well, Hayburn said. In the case of the Korean War memorial, the imaging was done in India and then the monument was shipped to the U.S., a process that can take up to 120 days for shipping and another 30 days to go through customs, he said. “The reason they weren’t able to make the changes is because (the memorial) had been made and was already in transit,” Hayburn said.""" As for a name being missed, that gets done -and corrected- all the time on the Viet Nam memorial as the omissions are perceived and should be attended to with a new name plaque. I find it hard to think our war memorials are outsourced too. Neal had a thread about buying an American made knife...I *would* think having American made memorials to our honored dead would be a minimum requirement. "Vox populi; vox humbug!"- William Tecumsah Sherman 6/2/1863 was never more appropriate as 'fast and cheap', however well meaning, appears to have ruled the day here! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

06-03-14, 08:50 AM	#19
Flamebatter90 Medic Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 167 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Schroeder: Yeah, you are right. I was just trying to be funny. The article says they (the veterans group) had a chance to review the proposed design before it was built, why no one pointed out the flaws is baffling.