Model of USS Arizona

[Admiral Halsey]

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

Of the thirty-one Japanese ships which comprised the Pearl Harbor Strike Force and it's escort and support elements, only one, an oil tanker, still survived in 1945 to surrender to the Allies. Not to mention what happened to Japan itself. I don't think revenge gets much more total than that.

I knew we sunk all the carriers but I didn't know we got that thorough of revenge on the ships involved.

[Akotalaya]

why does it seem that people are focusing my comment on "revenge" i mean really..i know i said that, but this isnt what its about, its about the fact that i want a model of the Oklahoma and Arizona for SH4..

[merc4ulfate]

Words mean things. This is the internet ... do you really think anyone knows what you mean unless you type it? If you type it then everyone is lead to believe that is what you mean. You can not convey emotion or intent unless you specifically type the words that explain them. I have never understood why people believe a reader should "get" someones intention or emotion from an internet post. Many people can read a book and come out with vastly differing emotional attitudes and responses from the words because they read it with their own life experience and education. This forum is no different than a book. No two people will have the same response to a single post because no two people are alike in every way. If one wishes to convey their intent and their thoughts one must be more specific than if you were speaking in person. At least in person an individual can read body language and hear tones of voice and the emotional they carry. You do not have that luxury in typed text.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by Akotalaya

why does it seem that people are focusing my comment on "revenge" i mean really..i know i said that, but this isnt what its about, its about the fact that i want a model of the Oklahoma and Arizona for SH4..

I guess I was just trying to point our that had these ships survived their grievous wounds at Pearl Harbor, they likely would have found little to beat up on by the time they were repaired and put back into the game. With the exception of the rather one-sided Suriago Straits battle most of the old, slow pre-war battleships found themselves having to be content with shore bombardment and AA duty.

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

I knew we sunk all the carriers but I didn't know we got that thorough of revenge on the ships involved.

I'm not sure if it was luck or fate, but it seems the ships of the First Air Fleet lived under a cloud after Dec 7th, 1941. The last actual warship of the group, the heavy cruiser Tone, was sunk in Kure Harbor by carrier planes just weeks before the surrender. The last destroyers in the group took part in the Yamato's suicide sortie and didn't survive either.