'Yes' vote 'means leaving pound' - Page 2

TarJak · 02-13-14, 04:21 PM

Is support for the split that high over the border? Most polling I've seen shows a clear No vote on its way.

Oberon · 02-13-14, 04:48 PM

Likewise, there's the usual core SNP lot, but I can't see the mainstream voters going with the Yes vote, but you honestly can't call these things for certain until it happens.

mapuc · 02-13-14, 05:14 PM

I wonder if those who's for an independent Scotland have been thinking on all these issues?

Such as economy, currency

Military

a.s.o

Markus

Herr-Berbunch · 02-13-14, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

I wonder if those who's for an independent Scotland have been thinking on all these issues?

Such as economy, currency

Military

a.s.o

Markus

I think they're targeting the youth vote, so no, they won't be thinking of economy or currency, just 'let us get rid of the English overlords (overlaird?) and that nice fishy bloke will give us lots of money, free childcare, free this, free that, with no idea how it will be paid for in the future. Oh, North Sea gas and oil?

Quote:

First Minister Alex Salmond's argument that the revenues from North Sea oil would be a golden ticket if Scotland became independent after September's referendum has received a devastating blow.

According to the latest monthly report from the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec), the average oil output in 2013 from the North Sea registered its lowest level since 1977.

Source (dated just yesterday!) - http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scottish-in...utlook-1436166

Wolferz · 02-13-14, 07:31 PM

Leave the pound?
Anything to get away from the dog catcher, eh?

Jimbuna · 02-14-14, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Actually I think that an independent Scotland wouldn't even be part of the EU. So I'm not so sure they would be lending too much money to Scotland anyway.

The Scots are in favour of joining the EU for the 'benfits' of trade and hoped for financial stability.

On the other side of the coin, the EU are concerned Scotland is financially insecure and would quickly become another Greece.

Jimbuna · 02-14-14, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I think they're targeting the youth vote, so no, they won't be thinking of economy or currency, just 'let us get rid of the English overlords (overlaird?) and that nice fishy bloke will give us lots of money, free childcare, free this, free that, with no idea how it will be paid for in the future. Oh, North Sea gas and oil?

That is precisely the question Salmond has dodged answering...how can you continue giving the free this and free that when the 'fiscal experts' question or doubt your countries ability to pay for said freebies without large hikes in taxation?

I was always hopeful they would remain in the Union but the closer we get to the September vote I'm erring on the side of 'Go on then, bugga off but don't go coming back in a decade or so'.

Skybird · 02-14-14, 06:15 AM

In case the Scots vote for separation, the EU would suck them in, yes. It always does, it even wants to suck in states that it cannot digest. All European land must be theirs. So the Scottish calculation that the EU would accept them, can be understood.

I have no opinion on it, just saying that any people and region always has just any right there can be to decide whether they want to unite or split from some superregional entity like a state. But who does so should make sure that he can afford to stay for himself, also, he has no right to demand others to bail him out on his deficits. He can beg for help, and when refused, he has to liver with it.

Problem over the Euro is that EUrocratics always give an impression as if the EU not only wants everybody in, but would even have an obligation to just welcome everybody.

As long as the Scots do not change their political system fundamentally and replace their politcial personnel and send the whole political establishment to hell, I see little importance on the issue of whether they formally split from the Brits or stay with them. The storm that is gathering above Western states will catch them this Pound-way or that Euro-way anyway.

STEED · 02-14-14, 10:46 AM

UK declares war on Scotland!

British troops should be marching into Scotland in a about a month time after a few visits to the cobblers to repair their boots.

Mean while Scotland will have there Tanks ready to face us.

TarJak · 02-14-14, 02:21 PM

Jim just wants them to separate so he can nip across the border to pick up some duty free fags and booze each week

Jimbuna · 02-14-14, 03:22 PM

Well, put it this way and putting the question of independance aside....for as long as I can remember there have been many businesses in England who refuse to accept Scottish banknotes on the pretext (I suspect) that they are more easily forged than English banknotes.

STEED · 02-15-14, 05:44 AM

Who said it was money?

Paper money.

Jimbuna · 02-15-14, 06:19 AM

STEED · 02-15-14, 06:22 AM

I'm voting NO

STEED · 02-15-14, 06:28 AM

Alex votes yes on chocolate.

02-13-14, 07:31 PM	#20
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Leave the pound? Anything to get away from the dog catcher, eh? __________________ Tomorrow never comes

02-14-14, 06:15 AM	#23
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In case the Scots vote for separation, the EU would suck them in, yes. It always does, it even wants to suck in states that it cannot digest. All European land must be theirs. So the Scottish calculation that the EU would accept them, can be understood. I have no opinion on it, just saying that any people and region always has just any right there can be to decide whether they want to unite or split from some superregional entity like a state. But who does so should make sure that he can afford to stay for himself, also, he has no right to demand others to bail him out on his deficits. He can beg for help, and when refused, he has to liver with it. Problem over the Euro is that EUrocratics always give an impression as if the EU not only wants everybody in, but would even have an obligation to just welcome everybody. As long as the Scots do not change their political system fundamentally and replace their politcial personnel and send the whole political establishment to hell, I see little importance on the issue of whether they formally split from the Brits or stay with them. The storm that is gathering above Western states will catch them this Pound-way or that Euro-way anyway. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-14-14, 10:46 AM	#24
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	UK declares war on Scotland! British troops should be marching into Scotland in a about a month time after a few visits to the cobblers to repair their boots. Mean while Scotland will have there Tanks ready to face us. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-14-14, 03:22 PM	#26
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well, put it this way and putting the question of independance aside....for as long as I can remember there have been many businesses in England who refuse to accept Scottish banknotes on the pretext (I suspect) that they are more easily forged than English banknotes. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-15-14, 05:44 AM	#27
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Who said it was money? Paper money. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-13-14, 04:21 PM	#16
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Is support for the split that high over the border? Most polling I've seen shows a clear No vote on its way.

02-13-14, 04:48 PM	#17
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Likewise, there's the usual core SNP lot, but I can't see the mainstream voters going with the Yes vote, but you honestly can't call these things for certain until it happens.

02-13-14, 05:14 PM	#18
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,540 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I wonder if those who's for an independent Scotland have been thinking on all these issues? Such as economy, currency Military a.s.o Markus

02-14-14, 02:21 PM	#25
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Jim just wants them to separate so he can nip across the border to pick up some duty free fags and booze each week

02-15-14, 06:19 AM	#28
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-15-14, 06:22 AM	#29
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I'm voting NO __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-15-14, 06:28 AM	#30
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Alex votes yes on chocolate. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!