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Old 08-06-13, 11:45 AM   #16
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2021 China closes first restaurant on Mars due to lack of customers.
2022 China reopens first restaurant in Mars as customer shipment from America arrives. Mars to Earth - oneway ticket price increase announced.
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Old 08-06-13, 11:52 AM   #17
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Let China get on with it and if they make a success of it...copy it.
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Old 08-06-13, 12:53 PM   #18
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If China was really cool, they'd be the first ones to Mars. (Manned)
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Old 08-06-13, 01:01 PM   #19
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Delivering in under one parsecs.
"Our prices are sub-orbital".... "oh wait, so are weeeeeeeeeeeee"

Splash.

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Old 08-06-13, 01:06 PM   #20
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Today we, sort of are competitors to space

Tomorrow we will be in a joint cooperation
The day after tomorrow we stil are in a joint cooperation but with no money involved
(A Gene R. dream)

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Old 08-06-13, 01:37 PM   #21
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I think that Frank Schätzing got it right in his 1000+ pages novel "Limit" when envisioning a future where the American space program is privately funded exclusively and by that step wins back (not keeping but winning back) the lead from the centralised state programs in China and Russia. Inclusive holographic Google glasses, flying motorbikes, an orbital lift, and a hotel on the moon.
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Old 08-06-13, 02:06 PM   #22
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I don't see China leading in anything when it comes to operations in space. They are finally getting up there. They are doing things we did 40 to 50 years ago!

Our first space station, Skylab, flew back in the 70's, lol We have had over a dozen men walk on the moon, again the last time we were there, was in the early 70's. We have robotic rovers on Mars, we have 2 spacecraft that have been in space and still functioning after 37 years,Voyager 1 and 2. The Hubble space telescope has shown us wonderous things in space, and continues to do so. And we can't forget the ISS, way ahead of anything they have got or will get in the future.

China ahead of us in space, in a pigs arse they are!
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Old 08-06-13, 02:37 PM   #23
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Quite true, eddie. They still have a LOT of catching up to do.

They're probably hacking the NASA database right now to find out how to do it. Once they get up there, they'll probably snatch a satellite or two for reverse engineering. The DirecTV customers are going to be miffed.
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Old 08-06-13, 02:49 PM   #24
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I don't see China leading in anything when it comes to operations in space. They are finally getting up there. They are doing things we did 40 to 50 years ago!

Our first space station, Skylab, flew back in the 70's, lol We have had over a dozen men walk on the moon, again the last time we were there, was in the early 70's. We have robotic rovers on Mars, we have 2 spacecraft that have been in space and still functioning after 37 years,Voyager 1 and 2. The Hubble space telescope has shown us wonderous things in space, and continues to do so. And we can't forget the ISS, way ahead of anything they have got or will get in the future.

China ahead of us in space, in a pigs arse they are!
Nothing says, "I win" quite like riding on the coat tails of previous generations.
You do realize that with the retirement of the space shuttle fleet, we have no manned craft to even go into space anymore right? Stack that up next to our 16.7 TRILLION dollar deficit (we're not replacing those shuttles any time soon), and also throw in that a large number of consumer goods in the US are made in china.

The writing's on the wall regardless if we like what it says or not.
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Old 08-06-13, 03:26 PM   #25
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Well cry me a river! I for one am darned proud of what NASA has accomplished through the years and nothing you cry about will ever change that! And no kidding, the shuttles have been retired? Wow, nothing gets by you does it,lol

Maybe you should do a little homework on what NASA is doing concerning a new deep space launch vehicle and a new spcaecraft!! They don't develope these things over night, and they still have to keep within their budget. Go cry to congress if you want their budget increased. NASA doesn't control that, or didn't that seem obvious to you!?!
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I'm not laughing at all.

I think it was you laughing when I suggested this perspective becoming real within 20 years, many years ago, in some long forgotten thread. I think that was before the 2003 war.
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I wish the Chinese the best of luck! It will be good to see humans traveling out of earth orbit.
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Old 08-06-13, 04:37 PM   #28
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Well cry me a river!
Nah, your doing a good enough job at it. No need for me to as well.

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I for one am darned proud of what NASA has accomplished through the years
As am i. For what it's worth, I have an aunt that works for JPL. Remember Galileo? As a kid, I was around for it's launch party in Pasadena. I got a pretty cool hat out of it too.

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and nothing you cry about will ever change that!
I'm not the one doing the crying. I am however, being realistic. Reality tends to make some people cry. Are you crying? I sense emotion.

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And no kidding, the shuttles have been retired? Wow, nothing gets by you does it,lol
I'm gonna hazard a guess you knew that, but was omitting that little detail whilst beating your chest about the great things previous generations have done.

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Maybe you should do a little homework on what NASA is doing concerning a new deep space launch vehicle and a new spcaecraft!!
Probably. I should ask my aunt what she's been up to. Actually, i do remember her saying about 5 to 8 years ago, that they were dredging up scientists from the space race because they where the only ones with practical knowledge on how to do things. Practical knowledge the current generation of scientists don't have because its not like they can send up a bunch of rockets like back in the cold war era.

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They don't develope these things over night, and they still have to keep within their budget.
Well, DUH. No **** Sherlock, where'd you park your squad car?

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Go cry to congress if you want their budget increased. NASA doesn't control that, or didn't that seem obvious to you!?!
Again, who's crying here? It sure ain't me. I'm just having fun picking apart your emotional response. Reality suck's don't it?
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Old 08-06-13, 04:58 PM   #29
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Why are you guys fighting about this?
At least we don't have to keep borrowing money from China to put people in space. Oh, wait, maybe we do. The Russians don't do it for free. Neither will the commercial space companies who are catching up in a hurry.
China better light their candle before they miss out altogether.

As it is now, China is extremely late to the starting blocks. So late that they can't even be considered participants in the race. Have they stolen our time machine tech?
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Old 08-06-13, 05:11 PM   #30
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Why are you guys fighting about this?
Only reason I've been responding, is because of a pet peeve.'

People riding on the coat tails of success or victory from past generations. Eddie there, pulled the classic, "We kicked their asses" card. My thought is always, "What do you mean, we?". If your not following my train of thought, think WW2. Lots of chest thumpers like to proclaim how we saved the Europeans from the nazi's, or how we liberated the french or something along those lines.

Again, what do you mean, we? Were you there? I know I wasn't. My grandpa can say something like that. I can't. You follow what I'm saying now? I think a big problem we have in our society is that the word "We" is too liberally used when talking about national accomplishments. It's like we've become a lackadaisical society, basking in the glory and success of our forebearers but doing little to none of the same. That's not to say that nobody is doing anything, but there's far fewer Doer's, then there are keyboard commando's.

No, I do not claim exemption, only the realization.
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