CO2 bug - Page 2

TorpX · 03-11-13, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottb8411

I set my display in "windowed mode" and am able to Alt-Tab without suffering from the CO2 bug. I actually discovered this by accident after purchasing a wide screen monitor and choose to play in 1680 x 1050 to avoid the stretched screen look.

Before changing to windowed mode I used to suffer the CO2 bug quite often...

This is very worthwhile. You mean you could set the game to a window size the same as you monitor, and still be freed from the CO2 problems?

Carrollsue · 03-12-13, 02:41 AM

What are you guy’s talking about???

Carbon dioxide levels or crashing the system/game?

CapnScurvy · 03-12-13, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Not sure what you mean, CO2 developes in a sub the longer you stay down, but I know you know this. Historically, the longer you stay under, the more it builds up, so not sure what you mean. I know what the bug is, what I'm simply saying is without the bug I've never come close to being held down to where CO2 reached even 50%. It's really a mute issue in the game. Obvious if you get the bug, doesn't matter if you're surfaced or submerged. I think in game it's set for 48 hours. I simply said if it bothers someone and you don't care about it's function, disable it and you won't have to worry about it.

If you read my post I'm not talking about the normal function of the Co2 aspect in-game.

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Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

The issue of the Co2 bug doesn't have anything to do with how long you may be submerged.

Thanks for passing on the info about how the normal function of the games Co2 buildup works. However, that's not what this threads about. The problem exists for many players of the game. Even if it's only occurred once, it's still a bug no matter how you feel about its insignificance, or the ease in fixing it. I prefer to use the "save game" to save a game for future play, not to "save" my crew from a bug that brings the grim reaper.

Armistead · 03-12-13, 02:11 PM

Capn, you're making something simple complex. My first post simply stated the that the normal CO aspect of the game (not the bug} has never been an issue as far as running out of air submerged fighting escorts, etc. It has no function that really effects your game play, so if you can live without the realism factor and you need to tab out a lot which causes the bug, rather than constant saving and reloading, just disable it.

Course one thing I've never done is check to see if the timer is different for all boats, but I suspect it is.

Carrollsue · 03-12-13, 11:09 PM

Yep, her it is: http://http://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/15045/co2-a-great-game-or-just-a-load-of-hot-air

Moonlight · 03-13-13, 04:57 PM

This is the correct link for the above post.

http://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/15...oad-of-hot-air

Bilge_Rat · 03-18-13, 11:13 AM

I have never had the CO2 bug, although I alt+tab occasionally.

It might have something to do with the way I play. I save often, play at low TC, usually never more than 256x. Rarely play more than 1-2 hours at one sitting and rarely play more than 1-2 days of game time at one sitting.

TorpX · 03-18-13, 11:35 PM

Personally, I am somewhat dismayed by the fact that only 16 have voted in the poll (and many said they didn't know). Maybe I should have asked if anybody still plays this game anymore.

Roger Dodger · 04-09-13, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

Personally, I am somewhat dismayed by the fact that only 16 have voted in the poll (and many said they didn't know). Maybe I should have asked if anybody still plays this game anymore.

Sorry I didn't vote, but just found this topic today (4/19). I don't normally search the topic menu, and I'm only subscribed to the TMO and the RSRDC topics. I also just got a notice about the Flying Dutchman thread, which I am also subscribed to. I haven't seen any activity on TMO or RSRDC for several weeks now, so I'm assuming that fewer folks are still playing. Not surprising for a game this old.

OK, my vote is: I NEVER use Alt-Tab, but I DO experience the CO2 bug on occasion. Save/Exit/Re-load works.

I have noticed that since I installed TMO 2.5 that the CO2 buildup is MUCH faster - my crew is starting to hallucinate or faint after only about 8 hours (somewhere around noon if I submerge at dawn). I suppose I could remain submerged until dusk, but I usually go to Periscope Depth, raise the SD antenna, and if all clear, surface for a 'quickie' just to reset the CO2 meter, then submerge to 125' for the remainder of the day (subject to acquiring a target on SONAR).

merc4ulfate · 04-09-13, 03:34 PM

I do not use Alt Tab to exit the game and reenter at points.

Yes it may be the same but I hit the windows key on the keyboard and then simply open the program I want opened which is normally GIMP if I leave the game during play.

I like to save screen shots to GIMP and prefer using the PrtScn over the in game SS shortcut.

While I can only recall having the CO2 bug maybe twice ever I have used the keyboard windows key, at times, extremely often without incident.

I can remember times where I may have spent an hour going back and forth.

If anything happens for me it will be a few graphic anomalies such as dark spots on the horizon and the like and then I restart and all is well.

TorpX · 04-09-13, 09:30 PM

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I have noticed that since I installed TMO 2.5 that the CO2 buildup is MUCH faster - my crew is starting to hallucinate or faint after only about 8 hours

This is interesting. I wasn't aware any mods made the CO2 buildup faster. How high does it get in 8 hrs.?

Roger Dodger · 04-10-13, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

This is interesting. I wasn't aware any mods made the CO2 buildup faster. How high does it get in 8 hrs.?

Seems like around 25%, but I'm going to have to play again and chart it for better accuracy. Maybe I'm the one hallucinating

I'll get back to you later.

Armistead · 04-10-13, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

This is interesting. I wasn't aware any mods made the CO2 buildup faster. How high does it get in 8 hrs.?

Can't remember the exact hours, but with TMO, I can about 30-40 hours before I must come up.

merc4ulfate · 04-11-13, 08:31 AM

It just occurred on me last night after I have use a keyboard shortcut to get to the desk top. I laughed at myself for saying it didn't happen to me and then it did. CO2 I didn't think to rose to quickly it was just that it would not stop rising after I surfaced until I saved the game, quit and reloaded that saved game.

My issue now is that no saved games will load any longer after that first initial load. None of the saves from last night nor before it will load. It crashes the game every time I try to load saves now.

Roger Dodger · 04-11-13, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Can't remember the exact hours, but with TMO, I can about 30-40 hours before I must come up.

I logged the CO2 buildup last night.
0800: Dawn, dive to periscope depth, ahead 1/3.
1300: (5 hours) CO2 icon starts flashing. CO2 at 10%.
CO2 builds up 2%/hour.
2000: Dusk, surfaced, CO2 at 24%. 12 hours total time submerged. Battery at 76%.

I guess it was the flashing CO2 icon that got me spooked. CO2 becomes lethal if the percentage gets above 3%, so interpretation using a 100% scale is a might confusing. Will hydrogen gas bleeding out of the batteries also cause problems?

View Poll Results: How do you deal with the Alt-Tab / CO2 issue?
I Alt-Tab and never have problems.	2	10.53%
I Alt-Tab and sometimes have it, but it's not a serious problem.	3	15.79%
I Alt-Tab and often get it, it is a significant problem.	0	0%
I avoid Alt-Tabing because of this problem.	2	10.53%
I don't know, because I don't Alt-Tab.	12	63.16%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

03-12-13, 02:41 AM	#17
Carrollsue Old man of the Sea Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Imus, Philippenes Posts: 58 Downloads: 1288 Uploads: 0	What?? What are you guy’s talking about??? Carbon dioxide levels or crashing the system/game?

03-12-13, 02:11 PM	#19
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Capn, you're making something simple complex. My first post simply stated the that the normal CO aspect of the game (not the bug} has never been an issue as far as running out of air submerged fighting escorts, etc. It has no function that really effects your game play, so if you can live without the realism factor and you need to tab out a lot which causes the bug, rather than constant saving and reloading, just disable it. Course one thing I've never done is check to see if the timer is different for all boats, but I suspect it is. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

03-12-13, 11:09 PM	#20
Carrollsue Old man of the Sea Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Imus, Philippenes Posts: 58 Downloads: 1288 Uploads: 0	I found Co2 Yep, her it is: http://http://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/15045/co2-a-great-game-or-just-a-load-of-hot-air Last edited by Carrollsue; 03-12-13 at 11:10 PM. Reason: O'' you konw

03-13-13, 04:57 PM	#21
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,520 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	This is the correct link for the above post. http://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/15...oad-of-hot-air Last edited by Moonlight; 03-13-13 at 05:22 PM. Reason: hehehe

03-18-13, 11:13 AM	#22
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	I have never had the CO2 bug, although I alt+tab occasionally. It might have something to do with the way I play. I save often, play at low TC, usually never more than 256x. Rarely play more than 1-2 hours at one sitting and rarely play more than 1-2 days of game time at one sitting. __________________

03-18-13, 11:35 PM	#23
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Personally, I am somewhat dismayed by the fact that only 16 have voted in the poll (and many said they didn't know). Maybe I should have asked if anybody still plays this game anymore.

04-09-13, 03:34 PM	#25
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I do not use Alt Tab to exit the game and reenter at points. Yes it may be the same but I hit the windows key on the keyboard and then simply open the program I want opened which is normally GIMP if I leave the game during play. I like to save screen shots to GIMP and prefer using the PrtScn over the in game SS shortcut. While I can only recall having the CO2 bug maybe twice ever I have used the keyboard windows key, at times, extremely often without incident. I can remember times where I may have spent an hour going back and forth. If anything happens for me it will be a few graphic anomalies such as dark spots on the horizon and the like and then I restart and all is well.

04-11-13, 08:31 AM	#29
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	It just occurred on me last night after I have use a keyboard shortcut to get to the desk top. I laughed at myself for saying it didn't happen to me and then it did. CO2 I didn't think to rose to quickly it was just that it would not stop rising after I surfaced until I saved the game, quit and reloaded that saved game. My issue now is that no saved games will load any longer after that first initial load. None of the saves from last night nor before it will load. It crashes the game every time I try to load saves now.