First we had the "birthers". Now we have the "skeeters"

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by August

Well maybe they are and maybe they aren't but either way Obama's not currently attempting to ban people from having kids.

But imagine if he was actually trying to ban people from having or adopting certain types of kids (stupid "what if" I know) then claimed to understand parent's anxiety over his proposals because he had some kids himself that nobody had ever saw or heard of before. Think folks would be a bit skeptical?

The comparision would be better if he would try to ban "assault kids": "This kid looks like it could wear camo clothes one day. It also posesses two hands, it could strangle somebody - sorry, you can't have it!"

I remember when the old Bush said he doesn't like Broccoli - and the crapstorm he got for it. "how could he say this, Broccoli is healthy, the Pres is supposed to be a role model for the kids, yada, yada..." Hey, at least it was an honest statement about his personal preferences - probably the only point in which I agreed with him. For reasons like that, politicians (and their PR crew) think twice before saying anything personal in the media age.

Wheather or not Obama likes skeet shooting, he plays by the rules of the modern PR circus: "Look, I'm one of you!" - just like the pics W. published , with the rolled up sleeves, working on his ranch.
Skeet shooting is a safe bet, even the majority of anti-gun folks would say nothing against using a gun for this purposes. So he plays the media flute.

The other thing is, publishing photos of him shooting clay pdgeons, would give the conspiracy nuts much more importance and attention than they deserve. The second a photo of him with a gun is shown, guys like Alex Jones would publish several pages, about the 1478 proofs why the pic is forged.

[August]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Wheather or not Obama likes skeet shooting, he plays by the rules of the modern PR circus: "Look, I'm one of you!" - just like the pics W. published , with the rolled up sleeves, working on his ranch.
Skeet shooting is a safe bet, even the majority of anti-gun folks would say nothing against using a gun for this purposes. So he plays the media flute.

The difference between Obama and Bush in those examples is that it's easy to imagine George rolling up his sleeves and clearing brush on his own ranch. He doesn't look out of place doing it as the pictures of it show. Not that he has to do the work mind but rather that he'd do it more as a form of exercise. For the same reason I chop and split my own firewood up in Maine although I have the money to have a seasoned cord sectioned and split and delivered right to my place.

Barry on the other hand saying that he shoots skeet "all the time" is just not believable, to anyone. Especially when no one has ever heard of him doing it. He hasn't even mentioned it in his book about his life. It'd be like Angela Merkel suddenly announcing that she goes para-sailing "all the time". Would you believe it? Especially without any evidence or pictures?

The other thing is, publishing photos of him shooting clay pdgeons, would give the conspiracy nuts much more importance and attention than they deserve. The second a photo of him with a gun is shown, guys like Alex Jones would publish several pages, about the 1478 proofs why the pic is forged.

I see what you're saying don't really buy that idea. After all it'd be rather easy to prove at least to to most peoples satisfaction that the picture wasn't forged making Jones look like even more of a nut than he already is. Barry hasn't done that and I can't see him missing the opportunity to make his opposition look like fools. He hasn't missed a chance to do so yet why now?

[Tchocky]

"the focus on this non-story is a sad commentary on our so-called priorities" - Everyone

"it depresses me that so many people are paying so much attention that could be better spent on real problems" - The World

"this is mind-numbingly stupid" - And his dog

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

"the focus on this non-story is a sad commentary on our so-called priorities" - Everyone

"it depresses me that so many people are paying so much attention that could be better spent on real problems" - The World

"this is mind-numbingly stupid" - And his dog

Hahahaha!

"the focus on this non-story is a sad commentary on our so-called priorities"

But its Obama.

"it depresses me that so many people are paying so much attention that could be better spent on real problems"

But its Obama and der gunz.

"this is mind-numbingly stupid"

You just hate freedom and love obama.

[August]

Maybe it's in focus among overseas America junkies but here it wasn't much more than a blip on the news. Bush clearing brush in Crawford made a far greater media splash.

[Platapus]

Steve,

As I posted. I would really like to see a citation in the Constitution where public servants need to give their birth certificates to the press.

As you posted, there ain't one.

As to who needs to see it? The individual state board of elections certifies all candidates. So if a candidate is running for POTUS and happens to be a resident of Maine, it is the responsibility of the Maine state board of elections to properly certify that the candidate is eligible for office.

Maybe it's in focus among overseas America junkies but here it wasn't much more than a blip on the news.

That explains why only two foriegners posted on the first page, and one of them was only ridiculing the whole episode.
So lets refresh, its an american news report with an a american politician talking about an american politician and an american poster saying it lies and its american media bias, yet its all the foriegners.
Classic

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Platapus

As you posted, there ain't one.

I didn't say it was cited directly. I said it was there. If the president isn't beholden to the people then the Constitution means nothing.

Back when the Constitution was chipped into stone, I doubt there were birth certificates in large scale useage.
Mostly it was a Family Bible that kept the family tree?

Since that was a religious thing? The Church and State thingy applied.
(Granted time travel may have been involved at this point)

Most people wore a large stone around thier necks back then with thier birth information.
(A fact the Government denies today)

This created 'Stoners' or document forgers as we now call them.
When the Stoners got really going doing thier thing?
The Gov started useing paper.
(Roughly around the time Gold was grabbed and paper was the new currence)

At this same time, mis-information was sent to all foreign countries so anyone NOT born here would look like fools.
If you were born here? You weren't told as it was eyes only information.


(Did I mention I have 'Warped' tattooed on my wrist?)

[Stealhead]

Back in the old day they would claim that a man running for office had a cheap wig or used cheap powder in his hair..

Thomas Jefferson and John Adams had the first "dirty" campaign.i say that because the entire "birther" thing was a smear campaign.the skeet shooting is just calculated publicity stunt that all presidents pull in some shape or form as Penguin said.

Steve has a cheap wig.
And he buys discount powder.

[Sailor Steve]

Something else they didn't do back then was campaign directly. Somebody else did all that for them, and they stayed above it all.

Originally Posted by privateer

Steve has a cheap wig.
And he buys discount powder.

I refuse to descend to the level of either acknowledging or replying to anything said about me one way or the other.

Armistead, quick! Find out the truth behind Privateer's mishandling of the company funds and have McBee publish it in the Dogpatch Gazette!

I can read fine print.
And through Evil intentions in other threads?
I have unmasked your side kick!

Yes. I know it doesn't mean diddly squat.
And to make things easy for you all?
I'd have to put money in to Company funds to mishandle any!


You still buy discount powder though!

[Sailor Steve]

Armistead, quick! I have privateer on record admitting that he stuffs company funds!

He's also selling "Powder", whatever that means!