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Old 07-20-12, 08:33 AM   #1
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Default Batman movie shooting

WTH? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...604705890.html

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A gunman wearing a gas mask opened fire early Friday at a Colorado movie theater on the opening night of the latest Batman movie, killing at least 12 people and injuring at least 50 others, authorities said.
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Old 07-20-12, 08:35 AM   #2
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Old 07-20-12, 08:39 AM   #3
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Old 07-20-12, 10:49 AM   #4
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I was wondering what 4D was going to be. I think I'll pass.

Seriously what a monster. Can't wait to hear what he has to say about himself.
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Old 07-20-12, 10:52 AM   #5
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Can't wait to hear what he has to say about himself.
"I'm special and you don't understand me. I'm doing you a favor."

That's what these guys usually seem to say about themselves, as far as I have bothered to read the rantings of those who have been literate in the first place.
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Old 07-20-12, 10:55 AM   #6
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Sad day....really sad day....
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Can't wait to hear what he has to say about himself.
Possiblities include:

My father abused me.
I was molested as a child.
People were always picking on me.
I played too many ( I used that as an example cause the airport scene surprised even me)
God made me do it.

The list goes on.
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Old 07-20-12, 03:32 PM   #8
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Possiblities include:

My father abused me.
I was molested as a child.
People were always picking on me.
I played too many ( I used that as an example cause the airport scene surprised even me)
God made me do it.

The list goes on.
Agreed...I'm simply suprised it took so long for the news of this tragedy to be posted.

The world is looking 'more mad' with the passing of each new day
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Old 07-23-12, 09:38 AM   #9
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played too many ( I used that as an example cause the airport scene surprised even me)


I've never seen this before. It really saddens me. REALLY.

Video game? How is simulated public massacre able to be passed off as a video game? It looks like a common console game; xbox etc.

We're not talking an obscure niche here, this is mainstream stuff your kids have probibly played.

While I don't think this'll make your little johny reach for an asualt rifle I don't think there is any denying it can influence feeble/unstable minds?
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I was like, hmm that's bad, another shooting, but that Twitter stream really hits home. https://mobile.twitter.com/jessicaredfield
really harrowing and another senseless waste of life that will effect families for the rest of their lives.
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I was like, hmm that's bad, another shooting, but that Twitter stream really hits home. Really harrowing and another senseless waste of life that will effect families for the rest of their lives.
All I can say is Lange has it right, these folks, the victims families, the people sitting near the victims will be sitting alone at some point in the future and this will return, shock like this never leaves a person they carry it forever.

I can understand a man who lives 50 miles for the nearest neighbour needing a gun or rifle, but assault rifles, madness. It's laughable when look at films where a fella has a cellar with his own personal armoury like Tremors, I laugh myself. But the brutal reality is these young people where all just starting out on their lives, the adventure had just begun only to be snuffed out by a lunatic with a gun fettish. It's about time the dead and rotting hand is cut off and buried as far as assault rifles are concerned.
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Strict gun control laws wont stop a determined person or criminal from acquiring an illegal firearm.The 100 round C-magazines are not illegal in most states you can walk into a gun store and buy one if they have them.

Now what is more interesting to me is the fact that he had a Kevlar helmet (conturay to popular belief they are not actually bullet proof) a Kevalr vest (legal to a certain grade) neck and leg protectors (not legal as far as I am aware).

If you are going to ban one type of firearm because someone might use it to cause carnage you might as well ban them all.A killer could kill just as many people with a bolt action hunting rifle.

I see no evidence that this person had a gun fetish it seems to me that he was a nutcase that wanted to kill and cause carnage and he used guns to do it.If he had no guns he would have made homemade bombs or something of that nature he actually did have some rigged explosives so if he made pipe bombs should we ban hardware stores from selling pipes and nails?

I most certainly have sympathy for victims of such events but to go and ban firearms because it happened solves nothing.If they did get banned the next crazed person would just acquire them illegally or find another method to cause carnage.

The only way to effectively try to prevent such things in public locations would be to have better security.In the old days they had an usher in each theater all the time and they where always checking to make sure that people where not going out the fire exits.That was what allowed this gunman to attack he was able to come in a back door and put himself in a controlling position.If he had been forced to come in through the front of the building he would have attracted unwanted attention and been forced to attack in the lobby when most people where inside the theaters they would have been alerted and been able to escape via the fire exits.The movie theater had easily exploitable security.
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Old 07-21-12, 03:38 PM   #13
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The authorities have neutralised at least three threats and are now inside the apartment:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18937726

@Neal...looks like the death penalty is an option:
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In many states of this nation, James Holmes would spend the rest of his life in prison at the tax payers expense, even though there was no question about his guilt or premeditation of the act. Fortunately, Colorado reinstated the death penalty in 1975 and a jury can award it if deems the suspect deserves it. For the sake of all that is right and fair, we can pray that justice will be served quickly in this matter.
http://www.examiner.com/article/deat...olorado-gunman
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Like others, I've called this guy a nutcase. To do something like this you would have to be insane! But, how insane is he?

Look at the planning that went into this senseless act. From the outfit he wore, to the weapons he had, including the gas grenade, plus the explosive devices he planted in his apartment. That is some serious planning to pull that off. Someone who just snaps and starts shooting, usually doesn't do a lot of detailed planning like this.

Going to be interesting how his mental state plays out in court.
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