The gathering storm

[Morts]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Heh, wow. If what he's going on about is true, you all got a serious problem over there.

It's Pat, i would take what he is saying with a grain of salt.

You can't deny that something has gone very wrong in Brussels though

If it wasn't going wrong in Brussels it would be going wrong in Dublin or Westminster or Tokyo, its a regular cycle.

It's Pat, i would take what he is saying with a grain of salt.

The sad beauty of Pat is he cannot see what he is actually saying anymore.
he is like Skybird
Take this present example, Pat talks about the problems and the threats and the pitfalls, that performance is then picked up with a big "me too" by the very people he is warning against and they support him because he is giving exactly the same message as they are.
Its like Skybird when he complains about extremism but then goes into quoting verse and chapter of "my struggle" as a solution, or when he complains about lack of democracy while singing the praises of dictatorship.
Both are so locked up in their "message" and its correctness that they can no longer think straight and connect the dots of their now thoroughly disjointed mental processes

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

It'S coming for you as well. It is already happening.

Given this age of globalism we live in, where a stone here, causes a ripple there, yeah probably. The question in my mind is to what degree.

Originally Posted by Morts

It's Pat, i would take what he is saying with a grain of salt.

Who's Pat, and why should i care? Honestly, I ask that question about any "celebrity" or "personality" i see in any media.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Who's Pat, and why should i care? Honestly, I ask that question about any "celebrity" or "personality" i see in any media.

Honestly? Some commentator called him a verbal daisy-cutter, which he is indeed. A standoff-comedian and stage script writer. Atheist, and vegetarian. Member of the British Humanist Association. I think I took it somewhere he is friend with Richard Dawkins. He is member of or at least campaigns for the europe-sceptical UK Independence Party, which I have some sympathy for, although I am not British. Some people tried to claim his videos for the BNP, which he always has furiously defended himself against, leaving no doubt that he wants to have nothing to do with the BNP, Neonazis, white supremacists, the KKK and the like. His videos also are sometimes posted by posters on behalf of the English Defence League, I am not in knowledge whether he gets hijacked by them like by the BNP, or is indeed associated with them (which I cannot really imagine, by the few info I have on the EDL). He is not in that kind of Nazi BNP business and in some videos found very clear words for what he thinks about this kind of Nazi breed. To Condell, Islam can only be get rid of by getting rid of the three desert dogmas and their organisations alltogether, which of course includes the christian club of organised crime, the churches. He is also associated to Richard Dawkin's foundation.

I use to agree with his points in a felt 95% of all details. The few disagreements are such that I can tolerate their existence and leave it to that.