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Old 05-16-12, 02:55 PM   #16
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The Presidential biographies on WhiteHouse.gov are from “The Presidents of the United States of America,” by Michael Beschloss and Hugh Sidey. Copyright 2009 by the White House Historical Association.
I'm not quite comprehending the signficance of that. Being a little slow on the uptake today, maybe you can explain?

This a book? and what is the affliation of White House Historical Association? They linked to the government somehow, or just some civillian assocation?
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Old 05-16-12, 03:00 PM   #17
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Frankly, I'm waing for the GOP to start talking about specifics...
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Yeah personally ive never heard much in the way of specifics from the GOP. I hear much in the way of platitudes and hyperbole, but not much else.

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The GOP is full of crap also. Honestly. All within the confines of DC "running" the country have failed miserably. The finger pointing will go on and nothing will get done.
All (left and right) of DC is full of crap, and their all on the special interest take as far as im concerned.
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Old 05-16-12, 03:02 PM   #18
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This may be the first time with a website, but it's hardly the first time ever. I have a small book called Who Were The Founding Fathers? I had thought it would be an in-depth study on the major players, but instead I was very pleasantly surprised. The first chapter is what the founders wrote about themselves and each other. The second is what the next generation wrote about them and so-on.

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http://www.amazon.com/Who-Were-Found...7197984&sr=1-1

It's not always pretty. You might be amazed at how each succeeding generation of politicians and pundits have tried to use their predecessors for their own slanted purposes.
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Old 05-16-12, 03:03 PM   #19
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This may be the first time with a website, but it's hardly the first time ever. I have a small book called Who Were The Founding Fathers? I had thought it would be an in-depth study on the major players, but instead I was very pleasantly surprised. The first chapter is what the founders wrote about themselves and each other. The second is what the next generation wrote about them and so-on.
http://www.amazon.com/Who-Were-Found...7197984&sr=1-1

It's not always pretty. You might be amazed at how each succeeding generation of politicians and pundits have tried to use their predecessors for their own slanted purposes.
Ok, so this is politics as usual then.
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So these are by a branch of the parks service keeping up to date information on the white house and its history and of the two authors one also worked there under Bush in the same job and one was appointed to the job during the first term of Bush.

Hasn't anyone got a "gripping" Daily Mail headline to post about?
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Ok, so this is politics as usual then.
Of course! Did you expect something different?
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Hasn't anyone got a "gripping" Daily Mail headline to post about?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ceman-out.html

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So Jim, I think you are talking Bollards.
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Of course! Did you expect something different?
No, not really. I'd have been more impressed if physical plaques were changed ala North Korean "Great Leader" style.
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Ok, so this is politics as usual then.
If thinking that lets you sleep at night then more power to ya. Personally I see it as just another sign that Obama is way to full of himself to adequately represent the American people interests.

Cult of personality.
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As opposed to the GOP Far Right's deification of all that is Reagan?...

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I'm surprised this is not mentioned in the Lincoln blurb:



more left propaganda...
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As opposed to the GOP Far Right's deification of all that is Reagan?...

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You mean like the Democrats Far Left's deification of all that is Kennedy? Including drunk driving killer brothers?

Y'know it's one thing to have heroes but at least it wasn't the hero tooting his own horn.
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I've seen some awesome YouTube videos of those things popping up and absolutely demolishing cars. Funny stuff. Not for the person inside the car, mind you.

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You mean like the Democrats Far Left's deification of all that is Kennedy? Including drunk driving killer brothers?

Y'know it's one thing to have heroes but at least it wasn't the hero tooting his own horn.
No, he meant like the right's deification of Reagan. Like assigning things him credit for things that never happened. Historical revisionism at it's finest.

But yes, also like the left's deification of Kennedy. But I couldn't resist pointing out that you're both falling into the "yeah well the other side did it too!" type thing. Can we all just agree that everyone does it without the one-upsmanship?

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And it never ends, because if your "team" gives up a gaffe, then you need to dig one up on the other side to even the score. So, last month the Romney campaign was embarrassed when an adviser came off like he was comparing his own candidate to an Etch A Sketch toy. Thus, this month the Romney campaign had to jump on an Obama adviser's gaffe that came off like she was saying that stay-at-home moms don't do work. And on and on it goes.
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But I couldn't resist pointing out the "yeah well the other side did it too!" type thing.
Couldn't resist eh? Then what do you call Viennas comment about Reagan? You seem quite able to resist pointing that out.
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