Yet another school shooting

[Gargamel]

Students shot in Ohio school; suspect in custody

Sorry cant get the link to work from my phone, anybody?


I only post this because I work less than a mile from the school in Chardon. Used to be my us rival, (we used to steal the c off the sign ). Half our Plant shut down so parents could go check on their kids, as far as I know, all our families are ok.

Things like this are just gettIng ridiculous. I used to think just the prevalence of media was reporting more of them, not more shootings actually occurring. Now I think it's a vicious circle feeding itself. Kids see the reports, go shoot up a school, media reports, etc etc


I'm very pro 2nd amendment, but this type of thing was never intended What can be done?

[GoldenRivet]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/chardon-hig...5#.T0uaL_X4JTk

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

I'm very pro 2nd amendment, but this type of thing was never intended What can be done?

The problem lies with the students, not the guns
Trust me, without guns, the messed up people will do school stabbings, school bombings

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

The problem lies with the students, not the guns
Trust me, without guns, the messed up people will do school stabbings, school bombings

Very much this. Here in Finland (where btw are a lot weapons available) there have been just handful of school shootings and none of bombings (in my knowledge). Instead students use more traditional methods like stabbing.

[CCIP]

I agree, taking away the guns doesn't necessarily take away the problems. Access to guns does make this kind of thing easier in some regard, but considering that bringing guns into schools or selling guns to minors is already illegal, it's not like further control measures will make it any more illegal.

Some would suggest that a big part of the fault for these lies with the media. Because of how much stories like this get sensationalized and spun, already-troubled and attention-hungry young people can come to the conclusion that this is their only way to take revenge, make a mark, disturb the rest of the society (which they've come around to hating). Like it or not, it's the public obsession with these stories that makes them "win" in the end.

[krashkart]

A lot of variables in play. I wonder how hard it is for kids to open up to their parents these days. If I had kids I would certainly want them to feel comfortable with unloading their troubles on me when they need it -- at least that way I could help them through the rough spots. That stuff comes out one way or another; unfortunately it's these sorts of violent eruptions that have become so popular among the kids that have no other outlet.

[Karle94]

Personally I believe it will be much better if someone is shot, rather than stabbed. If you`re stabbed in the gut, you have a very slim chance of surviving, unless there`s a hospital in the immediate vecinity. If you`re shot on the other hand, all you have to do is cover up the wound and keep it clean, unless the gunshot killed the victim immedietly. A stab wound is so much bigger and will lead to a much bigger blood loss, almost guaranteeing a kill. Not to mention that stabbing is much more painful.

[MH]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

The problem lies with the students, not the guns
Trust me, without guns, the messed up people will do school stabbings, school bombings

When you go stabbing you may be successful to score one or two victims before you get whacked in the head with a chair or ....
With guns it is a bit different but yes, messed up people are the problem in the same way as easy access to guns.