What a dissaster - Page 2

Elektroniikka-Asentaja · 11-23-11, 02:31 PM

Dread Knot made the point. I'm Finnish, happy about that and so on (insert the usual patriotic propaganda here) but I hated to see it as well when in some live news some man said that he is happy about the tsunami as the Japanese were finally punished for Pearl Harbor. I was like "FFS guys, you dropped 2 nukes there and think thatit wasn't enough??"

However, as much as I'd like to do it, I don't want to talk bad about Americans because if you have almost 400 000 000 people you can ALWAYS find some over patriotic idiots. You can find them in Finland too just as well as in everywhere else.

- Johnny

Sailor Steve · 11-23-11, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Elektroniikka-Asentaja

Dread Knot made the point. I'm Finnish, happy about that and so on (insert the usual patriotic propaganda here) but I hated to see it as well when in some live news some man said that he is happy about the tsunami as the Japanese were finally punished for Pearl Harbor. I was like "FFS guys, you dropped 2 nukes there and think thatit wasn't enough??"

I completely agree. People who say things like that are clueless. They were punished plenty, and when the war was over we did everything we could to make it up to them, just as we did in Germany.

The world has plenty of idiots to go around.

Platapus · 11-23-11, 03:46 PM

One thing to keep in mind is that the attack on the US is almost 70 years ago. That qualifies as ancient history to most non-history nuts.

It is like asking people in 1984 about the First World War.

It is probably an anathema to members of this board, but most people really are not interested in history.

Does that really make them uneducated? Not really. It makes them uneducated in the subject of military history.

One could make the argument that "everyone" needs to know about 7 Dec 41, but really it was almost 70 years ago. Yeah, it was a pretty big event..... 70 years ago. A lot has changed since then. We are friends with all of our enemies of WWII. There is a lot of history only 70 years ago that most people don't care about.

It is important to us because most of us here on this forum have interests in history and we play WWII themed video games. Most of the citizens ain't.

We will have to face the fact that soon, WWII will have the same historical interest as WWI for the majority of citizens - There will always be some who are interested in it but most will dimly recognize something about it.

I am less concerned with today's citizens not knowing about an attack 70 years ago but am more concerned with today's citizen not knowing a lot about how today's government works.

andy_311 · 11-27-11, 04:55 PM

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Well, you're not American, so it's forgivable. You have no idea how many Americans don't know the answer to that question. As long as you know what year the Germans invaded Poland you should be good.

This I know off by heart because my mum was born on a carrage car out of Warsaw the day the germans Invaded Poland.

dreadedlyfe · 11-28-11, 02:42 AM

RR- I am less concerned with today's citizens not knowing about an attack 70 years ago but am more concerned with today's citizen not knowing a lot about how today's government works. Amen.

@andy 311 Wow...gives a little bit more meaning when I invade Poland in HOI3.

I am into history because I am into causation. The butterfly effect. Military history usually stems from this. I am also into prehistory, following the flow of technology, and also language, since they usually went hand in hand. I can feel a diarrhea of a post coming so I'll stop here...

DickDastardly · 11-28-11, 07:35 AM

To the OP: I wouldn't be too worried about getting the year wrong. Your History teacher may be a bit miffed, but not as mad as your English teacher, who is waiting with 50 lines for mis-spelling disaster

Kongo Otto · 11-28-11, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Well, you're not American, so it's forgivable. You have no idea how many Americans don't know the answer to that question. As long as you know what year the Germans invaded Poland you should be good.

That remembers me a discussion i had some years ago with a buddy about ww1 and our Grandfathers:
"Where has your Grandpa served?"
"France, the Balkans, Romania, Italy"
"Dude I'm talking about ww1 not about ww2"

CptChacal · 12-01-11, 04:35 PM

He was shot in the Dardanelles.
Must hurt like hell.

Sailor Steve · 12-01-11, 04:45 PM

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He was shot in the Dardanelles.
Must hurt like hell.

Reminds me of a scene from JAG, involving a party at the admiral's house.

Admiral: Gunny! How's your wound healing?
Gunny: Just fine, sir.
Gunny's Date: You were shot? Where?
Gunny: New Mexico.

11-23-11, 02:31 PM	#16
Elektroniikka-Asentaja Loader Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hiding from Dowly Posts: 81 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Dread Knot made the point. I'm Finnish, happy about that and so on (insert the usual patriotic propaganda here) but I hated to see it as well when in some live news some man said that he is happy about the tsunami as the Japanese were finally punished for Pearl Harbor. I was like "FFS guys, you dropped 2 nukes there and think thatit wasn't enough??" However, as much as I'd like to do it, I don't want to talk bad about Americans because if you have almost 400 000 000 people you can ALWAYS find some over patriotic idiots. You can find them in Finland too just as well as in everywhere else. - Johnny __________________ Elektroniikka-Asentaja = Electronics Assembler. In finnish, Just in case someone wants to know.. New rig for noisy running: Desktop w/ Asus P5QC motherboard, Intel Core 2 Duo 2,94 GHz processor, ATI Radeon HD 4800 series graphics, 4 GB DDR3 Ram and 1297 GB hard drive memory There is a good possibility that the above post was written with a phone so please forgive the typos

11-23-11, 03:46 PM	#18
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	One thing to keep in mind is that the attack on the US is almost 70 years ago. That qualifies as ancient history to most non-history nuts. It is like asking people in 1984 about the First World War. It is probably an anathema to members of this board, but most people really are not interested in history. Does that really make them uneducated? Not really. It makes them uneducated in the subject of military history. One could make the argument that "everyone" needs to know about 7 Dec 41, but really it was almost 70 years ago. Yeah, it was a pretty big event..... 70 years ago. A lot has changed since then. We are friends with all of our enemies of WWII. There is a lot of history only 70 years ago that most people don't care about. It is important to us because most of us here on this forum have interests in history and we play WWII themed video games. Most of the citizens ain't. We will have to face the fact that soon, WWII will have the same historical interest as WWI for the majority of citizens - There will always be some who are interested in it but most will dimly recognize something about it. I am less concerned with today's citizens not knowing about an attack 70 years ago but am more concerned with today's citizen not knowing a lot about how today's government works. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

11-28-11, 07:35 AM	#21
DickDastardly Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	To the OP: I wouldn't be too worried about getting the year wrong. Your History teacher may be a bit miffed, but not as mad as your English teacher, who is waiting with 50 lines for mis-spelling disaster Last edited by DickDastardly; 11-28-11 at 07:58 AM.

11-28-11, 02:42 AM	#20
dreadedlyfe Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: great state of North Carolina Posts: 11 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	RR- I am less concerned with today's citizens not knowing about an attack 70 years ago but am more concerned with today's citizen not knowing a lot about how today's government works. Amen. @andy 311 Wow...gives a little bit more meaning when I invade Poland in HOI3. I am into history because I am into causation. The butterfly effect. Military history usually stems from this. I am also into prehistory, following the flow of technology, and also language, since they usually went hand in hand. I can feel a diarrhea of a post coming so I'll stop here...

12-01-11, 04:35 PM	#23
CptChacal Seaman Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 38 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	He was shot in the Dardanelles. Must hurt like hell.