WIP Helgoland Class Dreadnought - Page 2

02-23-12, 08:25 AM

yes, since i havent finished the firing restrictions for the gun mounts, they can shoot at any direction. the aa guns on emden are crap indeed, they will be replaced by the appropriate anti-torpedo gunnery which will play the AA role. furthermore, especially the emden model as well as the gun aren`t smoothed yet and the AO has to be rebaked.

chrysanthos · 02-23-12, 11:07 PM

also the helgoland has another bug that when the ship takes some damage it explodes and sink

steve_the_slim · 02-24-12, 01:43 AM

It doesn't just sink at the first hit, though. I tried it out in that Battle of the Sibuyan Sea mission and managed to take quite a few bomb hits before it went under. It lasted longer than the pocket battleship, actually.

02-24-12, 02:56 AM

yes, and this is something i havent been able to correct on my ships. the problem is, you take only minor damage and boom, you blow up. i tried adjusting the damage model, but still its the same. i guess its because of the way the game engine is programmed to have the ship types behave. we are faking ships, but the unittype is still submarine, not battleship. so a playable ship will not behave like a surface vessel like the yamato, which can take 10!!!! torpedoes from all around and still swims. any suggestions?

steve_the_slim · 02-24-12, 04:57 AM

Ask cdp44. His ships have properly-functioning damage models.

Edit: Hang on a sec, I just thought of something. If I remember correctly from my testing of Emden, doesn't that ship have a working damage model? It steadily took damage over the course of an attack on a convoy, and by the time I disengaged I had 40-odd percent hull damage, lots of big nasty holes, and a funnel shot away.

02-24-12, 05:28 AM

yes, since it is based fully on the type 9 and i adjusted all the damage zones etc. still i believe the battleships of mine to be to easily destroyed. they should not just suddenly blow up.

steve_the_slim · 02-25-12, 06:57 AM

I noticed another minor bug in the Helgoland. Some of the secondary guns are able to turn farther than they should. I took a picture of what I'm talking about, but apparently my computer ate it. The guns don't appear to be firing through the hull like the Emden's guns, so this isn't having any affect on gameplay; it just looks weird.

Klaus · 02-25-12, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve_the_slim

I noticed another minor bug in the Helgoland. Some of the secondary guns are able to turn farther than they should. I took a picture of what I'm talking about, but apparently my computer ate it. The guns don't appear to be firing through the hull like the Emden's guns, so this isn't having any affect on gameplay; it just looks weird.

see if your picture is not in main sh4 folder, under the name SH4Img@yyyy-mm-dd_hh.mm.ss_xxx, i mean sh4img, date it was make and a number

02-25-12, 01:16 PM

as i mentioned before, the firing restrictions are not correct.thats it.

steve_the_slim · 02-25-12, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus

see if your picture is not in main sh4 folder, under the name SH4Img@yyyy-mm-dd_hh.mm.ss_xxx, i mean sh4img, date it was make and a number

I did this. All my older screenshots are still there, but none of the ones I took last night.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhapprich

as i mentioned before, the firing restrictions are not correct.thats it.

I assumed you probably did know, but since I'm basically a beta tester for you I figured I'd make sure to tell you about any bugs I saw, even the obvious ones, seeing as that's kind of a beta tester's job.

Hotmanandre · 03-04-12, 03:58 PM

And what classes will be? Will the SMS "Goeben"?

Admiral Von Gerlach · 03-12-12, 03:39 PM

What a wonderful surprise to see this handsome ship, he is one of the classics of that era fleet and was much beloved by her crews as she was a very stable sea going ship, and a dry deck too even in heavy weather....

very nicely done, excellent detail, even have correct recognition markings on Andrea turret, very nicely done....my best thanks to you Master Shipwright.

Emden is one of my most all favorite ships her history was amazing and it is going to be wonderful to see her.. any chance i can lure you to do my other favorite? the Scharnhorst? of that era? so many thanks for this wonderful work.

03-13-12, 03:03 AM

yes, i am thinking about doing the scharnhorst,too. but there are still many other unfinished projects, perhaps ill look into it when the derfflinger is done and the H-class hunter-killer rules the channel... ps. very nice picture, what a beauty!

Admiral Von Gerlach · 03-19-12, 09:30 PM

Derflinger is a wonderful ship too, my grandfather knew the chief gunnery officer from her and they shared and excahnged a lot of letters and pictures and I inherited some....let me know if yoiu have any quesoitns about her...

and thanks so much for these wonderful projects...and thanks for the possiblity of the beautiful Schanrhorst......

yamatoforever · 03-23-12, 02:30 PM

Great model! Fine job!

Greetings
Molke2005

02-25-12, 06:57 AM	#22
steve_the_slim Loader Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 83 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I noticed another minor bug in the Helgoland. Some of the secondary guns are able to turn farther than they should. I took a picture of what I'm talking about, but apparently my computer ate it. The guns don't appear to be firing through the hull like the Emden's guns, so this isn't having any affect on gameplay; it just looks weird. __________________ A U-Boot is a very Schrodingerian thing, being either unobserved or dead Although it is only dead if observed by SOME observers, which is a very interesting problem of quantum physics, jawohl! -Sea Skimmer

03-04-12, 03:58 PM	#26
Hotmanandre Sparky Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Rus/Portugal Posts: 158 Downloads: 194 Uploads: 0	And what classes will be? Will the SMS "Goeben"? __________________ Last edited by Hotmanandre; 03-04-12 at 09:06 PM.

03-12-12, 03:39 PM	#27
Admiral Von Gerlach Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado and California Posts: 726 Downloads: 358 Uploads: 0	What a wonderful surprise to see this handsome ship, he is one of the classics of that era fleet and was much beloved by her crews as she was a very stable sea going ship, and a dry deck too even in heavy weather.... very nicely done, excellent detail, even have correct recognition markings on Andrea turret, very nicely done....my best thanks to you Master Shipwright. Emden is one of my most all favorite ships her history was amazing and it is going to be wonderful to see her.. any chance i can lure you to do my other favorite? the Scharnhorst? of that era? so many thanks for this wonderful work. __________________ Erlaubnis an Bord zu kommen.

03-19-12, 09:30 PM	#29
Admiral Von Gerlach Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado and California Posts: 726 Downloads: 358 Uploads: 0	Derflinger is a wonderful ship too, my grandfather knew the chief gunnery officer from her and they shared and excahnged a lot of letters and pictures and I inherited some....let me know if yoiu have any quesoitns about her... and thanks so much for these wonderful projects...and thanks for the possiblity of the beautiful Schanrhorst...... __________________ Erlaubnis an Bord zu kommen.

03-23-12, 02:30 PM	#30
yamatoforever Weps Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 360 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Great model! Fine job! Greetings Molke2005 __________________ http://darkfictionworld.tumblr.com/

02-23-12, 08:25 AM	#16
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	yes, since i havent finished the firing restrictions for the gun mounts, they can shoot at any direction. the aa guns on emden are crap indeed, they will be replaced by the appropriate anti-torpedo gunnery which will play the AA role. furthermore, especially the emden model as well as the gun aren`t smoothed yet and the AO has to be rebaked.

02-23-12, 11:07 PM	#17
chrysanthos Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: greece Posts: 827 Downloads: 505 Uploads: 0	also the helgoland has another bug that when the ship takes some damage it explodes and sink

02-24-12, 01:43 AM	#18
steve_the_slim Loader Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 83 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	It doesn't just sink at the first hit, though. I tried it out in that Battle of the Sibuyan Sea mission and managed to take quite a few bomb hits before it went under. It lasted longer than the pocket battleship, actually.

02-24-12, 02:56 AM	#19
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	yes, and this is something i havent been able to correct on my ships. the problem is, you take only minor damage and boom, you blow up. i tried adjusting the damage model, but still its the same. i guess its because of the way the game engine is programmed to have the ship types behave. we are faking ships, but the unittype is still submarine, not battleship. so a playable ship will not behave like a surface vessel like the yamato, which can take 10!!!! torpedoes from all around and still swims. any suggestions?

02-24-12, 04:57 AM	#20
steve_the_slim Loader Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 83 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Ask cdp44. His ships have properly-functioning damage models. Edit: Hang on a sec, I just thought of something. If I remember correctly from my testing of Emden, doesn't that ship have a working damage model? It steadily took damage over the course of an attack on a convoy, and by the time I disengaged I had 40-odd percent hull damage, lots of big nasty holes, and a funnel shot away.

02-24-12, 05:28 AM	#21
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	yes, since it is based fully on the type 9 and i adjusted all the damage zones etc. still i believe the battleships of mine to be to easily destroyed. they should not just suddenly blow up.

02-25-12, 01:16 PM	#24
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	as i mentioned before, the firing restrictions are not correct.thats it.

03-13-12, 03:03 AM	#28
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	yes, i am thinking about doing the scharnhorst,too. but there are still many other unfinished projects, perhaps ill look into it when the derfflinger is done and the H-class hunter-killer rules the channel... ps. very nice picture, what a beauty!