Russian airliner in fatal crash near Yaroslavl - Page 2

nikimcbee · 09-07-11, 02:34 PM

They weren't only "just a team", but they were one of the top teams in their pro league.

Gerald · 09-07-11, 02:36 PM

True words,

Jimbuna · 09-07-11, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

They weren't only "just a team", but they were one of the top teams in their pro league.

Yeah, a real tragedy

CCIP · 09-07-11, 02:45 PM

However you slice it, any time that a top-class group of young, talented guys dies like this, is a terrible thing

Russians build excellent airplanes and have done a lot to improve safety over the last few years, but right now the age of many of these birds is really not helping. I hope Yak-42s, Tu-134s and 154s are retired and soon. There's a reason that you don't see similarly-aged (and designed) 727s flying in this part of the world anymore.

Jimbuna · 09-07-11, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

However you slice it, any time that a top-class group of young, talented guys dies like this, is a terrible thing

Russians build excellent airplanes and have done a lot to improve safety over the last few years, but right now the age of many of these birds is really not helping. I hope Yak-42s, Tu-134s and 154s are retired and soon. There's a reason that you don't see similarly-aged (and designed) 727s flying in this part of the world anymore.

I was thinking that myself....Russia has always managed to get a lot more air miles out of their aircraft than most European countries....and sadly this is just another terrible example of the occasional consequence.

Anthony W. · 09-07-11, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

In what way?

The Russian commercial fleet is very aging and it doesn't seem to have a great track record.

Gerald · 09-07-11, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W.

The Russian commercial fleet is very aging and it doesn't seem to have a great track record.

I understand what you mean,

Highbury · 09-07-11, 05:41 PM

Very sad news for the hockey community. This, on top of the last few months has made for an extremely somber period in the sport.

CCIP · 09-08-11, 12:32 AM

Reading up on Russian news, it does seem that some form of engine failure is likely to blame. As the account goes, the plane apparently overran the runway and briefly ran on gravel, then became airborne, clipped some sort of antenna on the airfield with one of its wings, continued through the air for about a kilometer, then crashed into the river bank. Another version says that it did become airborne quickly but rolled sharply left after takeoff and didn't climb quickly enough to avoid the antenna. Given that the airport has a 10,000ft runway, it is a bit odd for a relatively small plane to just over-run it like that.

The airplane was built in 1993, and according to at least one source was due to be withdrawn from service next month.

Gerald · 09-08-11, 06:12 AM

The BBC's Steve Rosenberg says Dmitry Medvedev has vowed to take action on aviation safety.

ce hockey fans from around the world are mourning after a plane crash in Russia wiped out most players from the major league team Lokomotiv Yaroslavl.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev visited the crash scene and promised a full investigation into the accident, the causes of which are not yet known.

Thousands of fans gathered in Yaroslavl to pay their respects, many dressed in team colours with scarves and flags.

Some 36 players and officials died in the crash, along with seven crew.

The dead included the team's Canadian coach, Brad McCrimmon, and Swedish Olympic champion goalie Stefan Liv. One player and one crew member escaped with severe injuries.

World ice hockey chief Rene Fasel said the crash in Yaroslavl was "the darkest day in the history of our sport".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14832433

Note: Update Record, 8 September 2011 Last updated at 09:46 GMT

Jimbuna · 09-08-11, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Reading up on Russian news, it does seem that some form of engine failure is likely to blame. As the account goes, the plane apparently overran the runway and briefly ran on gravel, then became airborne, clipped some sort of antenna on the airfield with one of its wings, continued through the air for about a kilometer, then crashed into the river bank. Another version says that it did become airborne quickly but rolled sharply left after takeoff and didn't climb quickly enough to avoid the antenna. Given that the airport has a 10,000ft runway, it is a bit odd for a relatively small plane to just over-run it like that.

The airplane was built in 1993, and according to at least one source was due to be withdrawn from service next month.

Well eighteen years of age for an aircraft isn't all that old...provided it's been well maintained.

Anthony W. · 09-08-11, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Well eighteen years of age for an aircraft isn't all that old...provided it's been well maintained.

In Russia, plane maintain YOU.

Krauter · 09-08-11, 11:15 PM

From what little information I could gather it said that the plane overran the runway and took to long to gain altitude hitting the mast and clipping the wing where it continued a kilometer and then crashed near where the river joins the Volga.

Very sad day, few of my favourite Russian players were on board

Krauter

CCIP · 09-12-11, 08:30 AM

This story just got even sadder

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14879198

The only player to survive the crash didn't make it

Growler · 09-12-11, 08:37 AM

A sad, sad event, all around. I feel for the one survivor... this will be very, very hard for him, should he emerge from intensive care.

09-07-11, 02:34 PM	#16
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	They weren't only "just a team", but they were one of the top teams in their pro league. __________________

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09-07-11, 02:45 PM	#19
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	However you slice it, any time that a top-class group of young, talented guys dies like this, is a terrible thing Russians build excellent airplanes and have done a lot to improve safety over the last few years, but right now the age of many of these birds is really not helping. I hope Yak-42s, Tu-134s and 154s are retired and soon. There's a reason that you don't see similarly-aged (and designed) 727s flying in this part of the world anymore. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

09-08-11, 12:32 AM	#24
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Reading up on Russian news, it does seem that some form of engine failure is likely to blame. As the account goes, the plane apparently overran the runway and briefly ran on gravel, then became airborne, clipped some sort of antenna on the airfield with one of its wings, continued through the air for about a kilometer, then crashed into the river bank. Another version says that it did become airborne quickly but rolled sharply left after takeoff and didn't climb quickly enough to avoid the antenna. Given that the airport has a 10,000ft runway, it is a bit odd for a relatively small plane to just over-run it like that. The airplane was built in 1993, and according to at least one source was due to be withdrawn from service next month. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart) Last edited by CCIP; 09-08-11 at 12:44 AM.

09-08-11, 06:12 AM	#25
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Ice hockey world mourns Yaroslavl air crash in Russia The BBC's Steve Rosenberg says Dmitry Medvedev has vowed to take action on aviation safety. ce hockey fans from around the world are mourning after a plane crash in Russia wiped out most players from the major league team Lokomotiv Yaroslavl. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev visited the crash scene and promised a full investigation into the accident, the causes of which are not yet known. Thousands of fans gathered in Yaroslavl to pay their respects, many dressed in team colours with scarves and flags. Some 36 players and officials died in the crash, along with seven crew. The dead included the team's Canadian coach, Brad McCrimmon, and Swedish Olympic champion goalie Stefan Liv. One player and one crew member escaped with severe injuries. World ice hockey chief Rene Fasel said the crash in Yaroslavl was "the darkest day in the history of our sport". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14832433 Note: Update Record, 8 September 2011 Last updated at 09:46 GMT __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-07-11, 05:41 PM	#23
Highbury The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 51.557, -0.102 Posts: 1,311 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	Very sad news for the hockey community. This, on top of the last few months has made for an extremely somber period in the sport.

09-12-11, 08:30 AM	#29
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	This story just got even sadder http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14879198 The only player to survive the crash didn't make it __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

09-12-11, 08:37 AM	#30
Growler A long way from the sea Join Date: May 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,913 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	A sad, sad event, all around. I feel for the one survivor... this will be very, very hard for him, should he emerge from intensive care. __________________ At Fiddler’s Green, where seamen true When here they’ve done their duty The bowl of grog shall still renew And pledge to love and beauty.