German small video on the planned Euro-currency treaty

[Skybird]

A small video - and this time its a big tragedy because it is right to the point, short and precise: but it again is in German. It is about and asks some critical questions on the planned European currency treaty that the Bundestag should sign in 2 and a half weeks from now on.

If you listen to this video and how it analyses parts of that treaty'S text, you must realise how bad and "evil" this plan indeed is. It is an utmost, total and complete disaster.



EUSSR, here we come. The polit bureau already is installed, the ruling in the name of the people (EUSSR style) has begun. It'S all as democratic as in "German Democratic Republic". Hallelujah - long live democracy!

[Skybird]

To summarise the video's major points: the treaty on the ESM, European Stability Mechanism, features these points:

- a new European office, to which we must transfer any unlimited ammount of multi-hundreds-of-billion treasuries that it demands, within a time limit of 7 days (and why not, since parliaments and governments shall not consider and discuss it anyway, but should just push the transfer button on command),

- this new office can sue everybody, even nations and govcernments, but nobody can sue this office, it is completely immune to any legal prosecution,

- all people running this office also are totally immune to any legal prosecution,

- by no EU or national law, by no no national constitutions can this office be held responsible for anything. No governments, no parliaments, no private persons can hold this office legally responsinble for anything, or can sue it

- no national government can ever do anything against the ESM, never, later elected governments also have their hands bound and cannot break out,

- all european national budgets are controlled by and rest in one single hand - a hand that is not elected, and has no democratic legitmation whatsoever, and is not responsible towards the European peoples.

A Europe without sovereign democracies. In other words: a dictatorship, plain and simple.

In the movies and SciFi literature, there are movies like "Colossus" or "Terminator" where man creates computers so powerful that they take over global government and make mankind subject to their supression. The ESM treaty has parallels to this story, just that it is not computers taking over, but an Eurocratic office ruling by dictators' means, moving itself outside any reach for resistence or just questions, with no democratic legitimation needed, irreversibly. Nobody can hold it responsible for anything.

Such a tyrannic Europe must be prevented AT ALL COSTS.

I feel like in an Philip K. Dick novel.

[the_tyrant]

Skybird, I do have a question

Some Americans claim that if people can move freely within north america, large numbers of Mexicans will come north.
We don't hear western Europeans talk about people from Latvia or Poland flooding into their countries as often, even though people move freely within the EU.

Why is this so? Do people from less privileged areas "flood" into countries like Germany or France?

[Skybird]

We currently see - at least that is claimed - a wave of young people from Spain and Portugal moving to Germany, hoping to find jobs and a perspective here that they cannot find in Spain. German companies also actively recruit craftsmen and "young talents" in Spain, because they say there is a lack of these in Germany, due to high demand by the industry, but low birth rates.

Since integration and living-together with these, or people from Russia, Poland, Holland, Denmark, usually is no problem due to the relative cultural closeness, many Germans do not even realise such movements. Nor do I. The language barrier is something that these newcomers voluntarily and all by themselves try to reduce usually, and usually successful. In border areas to neighbouring countries, there is also a lot of bilateral cooperation on private, business and official level, and a lot of cross-border-job-hopping on a daily basis.

Bigger problems are people moving in from European countries that are culturally more distant, from Bulgaria Romania for example. These people fit in less enthusiastically, also often do not match the criterions for the kind of willing, well-educated and well-trained migrants that indeed are needed. On the social level, they are often seen as migrants into the social security systems, benefitting from them,. but not contributing to them. Which holds quite some truth. Subgroups like Sinti and Roma even actively reject integration and adaptation, and thus face the same antipathy from the local residents like Muslim/Turkish migrants that for the most also refuse integration and adaptation. But as a German you are not allowed to remind any of these of their own responsibility for their situation. On the other hand, the right-winged extremists get plenty of propaganda-fodder from this cirumstance - mkaing it even less acceptable for the opinion mainmstream to criticise these kinds of migrants, becasue criticising them has the smell of yourself lining up with the ringhtwingers. The EU's view is that many of these migrants are just "victims", and they all must be allowed to benefit from German security systems, even if they never contributed anything to it, and do not plan to ever do that. The French and the dutch have comparable problems, also colliding with the EU.

We have currently just normal migrant fluctuation with Central and Northern and Eastern European states, which is not surprising, since these states financially and economically are better set up than those critical money patients we have in the south, the so-called olive-area: Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal. Fins and Swedes and Norwegians have little reason to move to Germany for economical reasons (in fact Germans move to these countries, especially academically trained people, doctors), also Poles and people from Latvia. With Greeks, Spaniards and Italians, it is different - there the crisis of the youth is obvious and drives them to the streets in existential fear.

The most obvious migration "flood", as you called it, we do see from non-Euzropean regions, however. Turkey, Iran, Kurdistan and Afghanistan are leading the list for Germany, with Iranians usually fitting in much better than the others, they are a different people, really, also many of them came for different reasons, and belong to a medium and upper social class in their former Iranian society. What Turks are for Germany, in France are the Algerians and I think the Maroccans, in England obviously the Pakistani: the dominant single migrants groups to these countries. And all of them mean troubles. It'S like I alwys say: we do not have a problem with migration in general. But with some ethnic subgroups. Most Germans see that very pragmatic, I think: migrants in general are welcomed if they fit in and integrate. Then they really can be an enrichment to Germany. If they do not integrate and do resist the demand to fit in, we tend to not like them. And integration behaviour sorted by places of origin shows huge differences. That'S why I say we have problems with some groups pf migrants, and no problems with others.

[Skybird]

Just curious: how comes you had this question on migration patterns on your mind when reading a thread about the European debt and transfer union? Or am I just slow today?

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Just curious: how comes you had this question on migration patterns on your mind when reading a thread about the European debt and transfer union? Or am I just slow today?

I remembed reading this:
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_3...s-crapped-bed/

picture number 7, combined with the poor state of the economies of many nations in Europe made me curious