SH IV purchase

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm sorry. I would, however, like to know exactly how I was impolite. I wasn't trying to be picky - I just thought you were mistaken. Was I wrong?

Whatever the case may be, I apologize.

I too apologize. Let me try to be clearer.

You were wrong about me being mistaken, but that is not quite the issue. Try to remember that most people posting here are actually trying to be helpful, but whithin their limitations which may be of several origins - language, for instance. Many people posting here are from non-english countries, as I am for instance, thus sometimes failing to be clear all the time (though not reaching 'wed true' heigths!). What snaped me is that we all kinda expect contributive remarks - dialog - instead of split-hairish, picky, tiring remarks about tiny little things where something was slightly wrong or something like that. I think the word here is 'comprehension', without which, a forum ceases to be a fulfiling dialog and becomes a battle on who has the most detailed, impressive, uncontestable general knowlege about everyting - and specially so, when a counter-post seems to have a "ha! got you in a mistake" kind of feeling (something rather usual in this forum, and by the way, a mistake we all make now and then).

Dont get me wrong, Steve, I am not quite acusing you of being all that. Well, just in a few ocasions.... ... you did that in your post below and I didn't like it. I was trying to help the guy, I admit that maybe in a too professoral manner, but then you came out of the blue, with the "sword of righteousness" in your hands. Sometimes that is not likeable, I think you can understand that. You have no way of knowing what versions of the game were released all over the world. Actually neither had I, but was that a reason for not asking? The "sword of righteousness" hurts. It is quite a responsability, not to draw it in every single opportunity - a thing that, as I've seen, you do tend to do a bit often. And if I am saying this, is because I enjoy our interaction in this forum, and not to simply be a prick.

Anyway, I'm sorry too, Steve. Sorry for snaping. Guess I was a bit on edge at that time. I take back what I said.

[Matthew_T_Sherman]

Fewer paragraphs. (Just kidding.)

I'm willing to bet Steve knows that this community is comprised of several talented contributing members all over the world, all of which are well-meaning, for the most part - several of which are prone to joking and teasing in-between or while doing so. I, personally, appreciate each and every member of SubSim (so far). The habit I've attained, over the years, of posting verbosely actually came about from communicating across language barriers and gaps online. It's a couple of fine lines between not enough information, too much information and just the right amount of information. That doesn't prevent people from responding to perceptions I didn't type at all but it does seem to reduce the incidences of complete non-communication between me and those I wish to communicate with (and visa-versa).

(Oh great, now I'm semen.)

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

I too apologize. Let me try to be clearer.

You were wrong about me being mistaken, but that is not quite the issue. Try to remember that most people posting here are actually trying to be helpful, but whithin their limitations which may be of several origins - language, for instance. Many people posting here are from non-english countries, as I am for instance, thus sometimes failing to be clear all the time (though not reaching 'wed true' heigths!). What snaped me is that we all kinda expect contributive remarks - dialog - instead of split-hairish, picky, tiring remarks about tiny little things where something was slightly wrong or something like that. I think the word here is 'comprehension', without which, a forum ceases to be a fulfiling dialog and becomes a battle on who has the most detailed, impressive, uncontestable general knowlege about everyting - and specially so, when a counter-post seems to have a "ha! got you in a mistake" kind of feeling (something rather usual in this forum, and by the way, a mistake we all make now and then).

You're absolutely right. I do tend to be abrupt sometimes. On the other hand, contrary to what you may have seen here so far, I am wrong far more than I'm right, and when someone points that out I am the first to admit that I was wrong. I don't claim to know everything, and I only correct others when it is obvious that there was a mistake. In this case perhaps it was a misunderstanding, but what you wrote was to me incorrect and I thought it was more than just nit-picking on my part to set it straight. If I was wrong on that, again I apologize.

You have no way of knowing what versions of the game were released all over the world. Actually neither had I, but was that a reason for not asking?

Excellent point, and one that I take seriously. In my real life, as well as here, I sometimes say things the wrong way. On the other hand I sometimes say things the right way but it gets taken wrong anyway. I think.

Anyway, I'm sorry too, Steve. Sorry for snaping. Guess I was a bit on edge at that time. I take back what I said.

Not at all. I'm what is sometimes called "mercurial". Like mercury in a thermometer, one day I'm up and one day I'm down. One day I can be friendly and helpful and the next day I'll be cold as ice, sometimes reading through pleas for help and saying "That's nice, but I don't really care today". I'd like to promise I'll be better in the future, but I'm pretty sure I won't. All I can do is try.

[I'm goin' down]

somebody call Dr. Phil. Tell Neal Stevens to put him on retainer.

[Sailor Steve]

ARE YOU CALLIN' ME CRAZY? I AIN'T CRAZY! YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S CRAZY! SAY THAT AGAIN AND I'LL KILL YOU ALL!




Wait, wut?




Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll go back in my padded cell now.

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'd like to promise I'll be better in the future, but I'm pretty sure I won't. All I can do is try.

Yeah, i feel the same way too. At the end of the day, it's all about the constant trouble of polishing our roughness . Great thing we straightend things out.

I'm glad we had this conversation. Quite the complex forum this is, hum? Maybe someone should fedex a hardcopy of SH4 to Dr. Phil, just to lure him to our little club....

[I'm goin' down]

[Matthew_T_Sherman]