8 km atmosphere vs. 16 km atmosphere

sublynx · 08-11-11, 12:50 PM

Which do you prefer in GWX, the 8 kilometer visibility environment or the 16 km environment? Do you feel that one or the other is more realistic?

Magic1111 · 08-11-11, 01:41 PM

Clearily 16 km ! It´s the best in my opinion !

Sailor Steve · 08-11-11, 01:43 PM

I would take 16km, but I'm using Rik007's SH5 Water For SH3, which has 20km visibility!

Iron Budokan · 08-11-11, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I would take 16km, but I'm using Rik007's SH5 Water For SH3, which has 20km visibility!

Yes, this is what I use as well. It's awesome!

max-peck · 08-11-11, 02:26 PM

16km no question

EDIT: And I'd use the 20km if my computer could run it.

frau kaleun · 08-11-11, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I would take 16km, but I'm using Rik007's SH5 Water For SH3, which has 20km visibility!

Same here, I always preferred the 16km to 8km but I play a 20km environment with a combination of SH5 Water and MEP.

VONHARRIS · 08-12-11, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I would take 16km, but I'm using Rik007's SH5 Water For SH3, which has 20km visibility!

Same here.

sublynx · 08-12-11, 01:29 AM

It seems like most players seem to prefer better visibility.

I made some calculations based on a distance to horizon formula from here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon

and using a type VII's height subtracted from draft I calculated that the visibility would be around 8 - 9 km. However, on real life conditions I guess one could see the masts of the ships beyond the horizon and maybe smoke rising above the horizon, but probably not in all weather conditions. But how high are the masts, how high does the smoke rise, what exactly is their effect on visibility, a couple of additional kilometers of visibility or over ten kilometers more?

The visibility would theoreticallly also be different for an approaching airplane, since that would usually be at a high altitude and therefore visible over the horizon. On the other hand I would think that the lookout would have to be quite a hawkeye to spot an airplane at a distance of over 8 kilometers. I think flight simulators usually limit visibility to well under 10 km.

Anyone with sailing / flying experience who could sort me out here? What would be considered realistic? If I choose 8 km visibility, am I restricting my game in a way that could be considered unrealistic? If I choose 16 km (that 20 km mod didn't work with my setup) are my watchmen spotting ships and planes they would never haver spotted in real conditions?

Fish In The Water · 08-12-11, 02:10 AM

Oddball in the bunch here, but I prefer 8km as limited visibility has always seemed more realistic. That plus it dovetails nicely into my playing style by enabling quick flanking moves around convoys on the cusp of visibility.

View Poll Results: Which do you prefer in GWX, the 8 km visibility environment or the 16 km environment?
8 km	10	23.26%
16 km	33	76.74%
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08-11-11, 12:50 PM	#1
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	8 km atmosphere vs. 16 km atmosphere Which do you prefer in GWX, the 8 kilometer visibility environment or the 16 km environment? Do you feel that one or the other is more realistic? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] NYGM+H.sie v16+Stiebler 4C+MaGui WS

08-11-11, 01:41 PM	#2
Magic1111 Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany - Sailing on U-552 in North Atlantic Posts: 4,429 Downloads: 783 Uploads: 0	Clearily 16 km ! It´s the best in my opinion ! __________________

08-11-11, 01:43 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I would take 16km, but I'm using Rik007's SH5 Water For SH3, which has 20km visibility! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-11-11, 02:26 PM	#5
max-peck Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK Posts: 752 Downloads: 414 Uploads: 0	16km no question EDIT: And I'd use the 20km if my computer could run it. __________________ -------------------------------------------------- Authority should derive from the consent of the governed, not from the threat of force If the only tool you have is a hammer, pretty soon everything starts to look like a nail FOTRS Ultimate http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=226270 The future of SH4 - coming to a PC near you soon

08-12-11, 01:29 AM	#8
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	It seems like most players seem to prefer better visibility. I made some calculations based on a distance to horizon formula from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon and using a type VII's height subtracted from draft I calculated that the visibility would be around 8 - 9 km. However, on real life conditions I guess one could see the masts of the ships beyond the horizon and maybe smoke rising above the horizon, but probably not in all weather conditions. But how high are the masts, how high does the smoke rise, what exactly is their effect on visibility, a couple of additional kilometers of visibility or over ten kilometers more? The visibility would theoreticallly also be different for an approaching airplane, since that would usually be at a high altitude and therefore visible over the horizon. On the other hand I would think that the lookout would have to be quite a hawkeye to spot an airplane at a distance of over 8 kilometers. I think flight simulators usually limit visibility to well under 10 km. Anyone with sailing / flying experience who could sort me out here? What would be considered realistic? If I choose 8 km visibility, am I restricting my game in a way that could be considered unrealistic? If I choose 16 km (that 20 km mod didn't work with my setup) are my watchmen spotting ships and planes they would never haver spotted in real conditions? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] NYGM+H.sie v16+Stiebler 4C+MaGui WS

08-12-11, 02:10 AM	#9
Fish In The Water Prince of the Sea SUBSIM Welcome Committee Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Watching over U-253 Posts: 3,527 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 2	Oddball in the bunch here, but I prefer 8km as limited visibility has always seemed more realistic. That plus it dovetails nicely into my playing style by enabling quick flanking moves around convoys on the cusp of visibility.