So Obama's on a Russian stamp.

I mean, yes, it bankrupted the Soviets in the short term...but now it's bankrupting America.

Yeah but the USSR bankrupted first so it is still a victory like on the fields Heraclea and Asculum so it is a win for Ronnie

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yeah but the USSR bankrupted first so it is still a victory like on the fields Heraclea and Asculum so it is a win for Ronnie

Yah, Pyrrhic is definitely the word for it.

I wonder if the Soviet Union would have collapsed without the defence budget wars though, given Gorbies moderate reformist stance and the tensions in the Pact. Of course, hindsight is a wonderful thing...but I do wonder.

I wonder if the Soviet Union would have collapsed without the defence budget wars though

It was bound to, the model just doesn't work, quite frankly I am surprised the soviet union lasted as long as it did.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

It was bound to, the model just doesn't work, quite frankly I am surprised the soviet union lasted as long as it did.

It was a dead end cycle...but there was always the chance for adapting towards Market socialism which is what I think Gorbie was going to try to do before it all collapsed. Taking a look at the PRC, you have to wonder if that too will go the same way as the Soviet Union or whether the changes made under Deng will give it a greater chance of surviving in the modern era.
I mean, yes at the moment it is an economic powerhouse...but that is all built on a very very unstable system which is teetering on a cliff edge and is constantly being adjusted by the central control to prevent an inflation overdrive as they fight to close the gap between the coast and the interior.

[Growler]

All things to their time and place; just as the Roman Republic faded into history, as did the Aztec at Tenochtitlan, and the Qing Dynasty of China... no form of government is permanent, no lines on a map are permanent, no religion is permanent - they just feel that way to us in our limited lifespans. All things wax and wane.

[yubba]

I guess we could put his face on food stamps here. I'm not talking about Reagan

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Benjamin Franklin is honored on a 1956 Soviet era stamp.

Why do they call him "Venjamin Franklin"? Or have I just forgotten what capital V and B look in cyrillic?

[Growler]

Originally Posted by yubba

I guess we could put his face on food stamps here. I'm not talking about Reagan

Hell, I'll put my own face on Oreos if I could send them to Congress with the directions, "Eat me."

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Growler

Hell, I'll put my own face on Oreos if I could send them to Congress with the directions, "Eat me."

Better yet, of your backside saying" kiss my ***"!

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

It was bound to, the model just doesn't work, quite frankly I am surprised the soviet union lasted as long as it did.

Now can someone forward this to the barakolypse.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

barakolypse

If you came up with that yourself, I'm proud of ya, poochie!

If not, good find!

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If you came up with that yourself, I'm proud of ya, poochie!

If not, good find!

Credit goes to Mr. Drudge.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by yubba

I guess we could put his face on food stamps here. I'm not talking about Reagan

I think we could have easily put Reagan's face on Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and just about every other manufacturing based state's food stamps. He started the trend of allowing those jobs to pack up and move, never to return.

[Platapus]

I think I will go in to my kitchen and have a nice serving of Ketchup. Mmmm I like vegetables.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I think I will go in to my kitchen and have a nice serving of Ketchup. Mmmm I like vegetables.

I don't care what the Supreme Court says, a tomato and any extraction there of is a Fruit, dagnamit!