Amy Winehouse dead - Page 2

antikristuseke · 07-23-11, 04:11 PM

I wasn't. I have smoked weed, and on very rare occasions still do. But the total amount of times I have part taken in that is lower than my age.
Drug use and drug abuse are two completely different things in my book.

joegrundman · 07-23-11, 04:13 PM

i stand by my statement. it was unbecoming and disappointing.

in her short life she contributed lots. what's your major contribution that you can be so contemptuous of her?

Skybird · 07-23-11, 04:23 PM

Never understood the hype around her. She was absolutely talent-free, and that noise she made hardly could be called a voice so well that you should bring it to the ears of the world by what optimists use to euphemistically call "singing". Beside her lacking skill to sing, she had no other entertaining qualities on stage as well, because watching a stoned or drunken person collapsing or vomitting on stage is not entertaining, and her small steps when hoofing around had no entertaining attraction and was no dancing either. Her drug career and alcoholism is tragic, but not different to so many other lives derailed by drugs and alcohol as well but whose names nobody takes care of.

It is strange that our medias fill headlines with excesses like hers. Is thgere no real beuaty in the world to report, is there no important event going on somewhere? Are there no better idols we can offer to young people for orientation? She was no idol. She was a textbook example of what models you should not follow or admire.

antikristuseke · 07-23-11, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

i stand by my statement. it was unbecoming and disappointing.

in her short life she contributed lots. what's your major contribution that you can be so contemptuous of her?

It is not her personally, but every talented artist, among whom I don't really count her to be, who wasted their life due to substance abuse which irritates me deeply. I just did not sugar coat what I had to say.

And besides my inappropriate sense of humour I have no contributions, but that goes down the line of thinking where you are not allowed to criticize unless you can do better yourself which is something I do not agree with, unless it refers to something tangible, like engineering a bridge for instance, and even there it would be rarely applicable.

V.C. Sniper · 07-23-11, 04:32 PM

if the death of stephen hawking (hope will never happen) creates less buzz than this, i will lose hope in humanity.

joegrundman · 07-23-11, 04:33 PM

oh dear! absolutely talent free he says!

here's something more to your taste skybird

joegrundman · 07-23-11, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

It is not her personally, but every talented artist, among whom I don't really count her to be, who wasted their life due to substance abuse which irritates me deeply. I just did not sugar coat what I had to say.

And besides my inappropriate sense of humour I have no contributions, but that goes down the line of thinking where you are not allowed to criticize unless you can do better yourself which is something I do not agree with, unless it refers to something tangible, like engineering a bridge for instance, and even there it would be rarely applicable.

there is criticism, and there is needless contempt and faux tough-boy hardassery. all disguised in this thing you mistake for a sense of humour.

danasan · 07-23-11, 04:43 PM

can anybody direct me to the button for the ignore - list, please?

Edit: Found it, thanks

JU_88 · 07-23-11, 04:53 PM

Yeah I think with Winehouse an early grave was more of a case of 'when' rather than 'if'.
A shame and waste - but she only has her self to blame.

The Enigma · 07-23-11, 04:54 PM

Janis Joplin died at 27.
Jimmy Hendrix died at the age of 27.
Jim Morrison also died at the age of 27.
Kurt Cobain died at the age of 27.

Just to name a few, and now Amy Winehouse.

What's so special about 27??

May she rest in peace.

JU_88 · 07-23-11, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by V.C. Sniper

if the death of stephen hawking (hope will never happen) creates less buzz than this, i will lose hope in humanity.

You mean you still have hope? I would lower your expectaions if I were you.

wardi · 07-23-11, 05:02 PM

It's all because drugs and alcohol...

ORP BALTYK · 07-23-11, 05:05 PM

Dis ist bed wery bed mesage , aim laik miusic AMMY end nau aim sed wery sed end one more fink "**** happens"

antikristuseke · 07-23-11, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joegrundman

there is criticism, and there is needless contempt and faux tough-boy hardassery. all disguised in this thing you mistake for a sense of humour.

Nothing more than a difference of opinion here then.

joegrundman · 07-23-11, 05:10 PM

indeed

07-23-11, 04:13 PM	#17
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	i stand by my statement. it was unbecoming and disappointing. in her short life she contributed lots. what's your major contribution that you can be so contemptuous of her? __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

07-23-11, 04:23 PM	#18
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Never understood the hype around her. She was absolutely talent-free, and that noise she made hardly could be called a voice so well that you should bring it to the ears of the world by what optimists use to euphemistically call "singing". Beside her lacking skill to sing, she had no other entertaining qualities on stage as well, because watching a stoned or drunken person collapsing or vomitting on stage is not entertaining, and her small steps when hoofing around had no entertaining attraction and was no dancing either. Her drug career and alcoholism is tragic, but not different to so many other lives derailed by drugs and alcohol as well but whose names nobody takes care of. It is strange that our medias fill headlines with excesses like hers. Is thgere no real beuaty in the world to report, is there no important event going on somewhere? Are there no better idols we can offer to young people for orientation? She was no idol. She was a textbook example of what models you should not follow or admire. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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V.C. Sniper Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	if the death of stephen hawking (hope will never happen) creates less buzz than this, i will lose hope in humanity. __________________ I only need one torpedo.

07-23-11, 04:33 PM	#21
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	oh dear! absolutely talent free he says! here's something more to your taste skybird __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

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danasan Elite Spam Hunter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Flensburg / Germany Posts: 1,141 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	can anybody direct me to the button for the ignore - list, please? Edit: Found it, thanks __________________ "I invite you to go inside this submergible hole in the water where you can nicely hide from destroyers."

07-23-11, 04:11 PM	#16
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I wasn't. I have smoked weed, and on very rare occasions still do. But the total amount of times I have part taken in that is lower than my age. Drug use and drug abuse are two completely different things in my book.

07-23-11, 04:53 PM	#24
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Yeah I think with Winehouse an early grave was more of a case of 'when' rather than 'if'. A shame and waste - but she only has her self to blame.

07-23-11, 04:54 PM	#25
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Janis Joplin died at 27. Jimmy Hendrix died at the age of 27. Jim Morrison also died at the age of 27. Kurt Cobain died at the age of 27. Just to name a few, and now Amy Winehouse. What's so special about 27?? May she rest in peace. __________________

07-23-11, 05:02 PM	#27
wardi Bilge Rat Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	It's all because drugs and alcohol...

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ORP BALTYK Watch Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: POLEN Posts: 23 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	Dis ist bed wery bed mesage , aim laik miusic AMMY end nau aim sed wery sed end one more fink "**** happens"

07-23-11, 05:10 PM	#30
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	indeed __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill