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Old 07-15-11, 01:11 PM   #16
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I know I could find an appropriate sample to show that 60% of americans DO believe that the sun orbits the earth.

For example, I'd only need to find 3 people who already believe it, ask 2 more people who don't, and voila.

Manipulate the sample size/content, and you can "prove" almost anything.
Then that would not be a representative sample and your poll would be biased.

The Gallup organization follows established methodology for selecting poll populations.

Instead of a blanket "you can't trust polls", it would be more appropriate to only trust polls where the methodology is published and to use the results in an appropriate manner.

There is nothing wrong with polling as long as people understand how it was designed, how the data was collected and coded, and how to interpret the results.
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Old 07-15-11, 01:51 PM   #17
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I will never trust polls. Ever. For anything. For one simple reason: I give extreme-of-range data replies to every poll I take.

Yes, that's right. I am self-identifying as that "Margin of Error" they all include.

And I figure that if it's possible that ONE person is purposely answering polls with dubious replies, then it's theoretically possible that other people are doing the same, thereby invalidating the whole thing.

I like to mess with people's heads.
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Old 07-15-11, 02:37 PM   #18
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I suppose this debt-issue, is to important to let the average american vote wich proposal, the governmet should use

1 The Obama's
2 The Republican's
3 None of them

No offend, but in my ear, it sounds like, that the politicians in Whasington have low thougts about it's habitants.

I know it's not a common thing to us this type of referendum.

But it's the future of USA and it involves every people living there.

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Old 07-15-11, 02:48 PM   #19
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The same poll ranked Sarah Palin as the the 2nd most admirable woman in the world
So am I a bad person for agreeing with that?
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Old 07-15-11, 05:30 PM   #21
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So am I a bad person for agreeing with that?
Nope. Just means you think differently from those that named whomever for the most admirable woman in the world.

Frankly, the entire political spectrum has become way too much celebrity and not much in the way of celerity, but please hold the celery.
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Frankly, the entire political spectrum has become way too much celebrity and not much in the way of celerity, but please hold the celery.
I completely agree.
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Think of it like this. If your household borrowed from the bank 40 cents on every dollar just to pay the bills doesn't it make more sense to cut some of the bills? Cancel the cable TV! Cut back on purchases. You cannot live lavishly off the bank forever.

The government only collects X amount of dollars in taxes annually so all programs should fit within that X amount of dollars!
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A lot of this could be fixed by giving each side a flintlock pistol and having an old fashioned duel, to decide or better yet just shooting every politician and starting from scratch.
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better yet just shooting every politician and starting from scratch.
There is probably a down side to that. I just can't think of one off hand, but I am positive there must be.
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Think of it like this. If your household borrowed from the bank 40 cents on every dollar just to pay the bills doesn't it make more sense to cut some of the bills? Cancel the cable TV! Cut back on purchases. You cannot live lavishly off the bank forever.

The government only collects X amount of dollars in taxes annually so all programs should fit within that X amount of dollars!
Agreed.

They can't raise taxes because that'd cause A LOT of small businesses to shut down - and in effect they'd LOSE money.
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A lot of this could be fixed by giving each side a flintlock pistol and having an old fashioned duel, to decide or better yet just shooting every politician and starting from scratch.
Or, we the Subsimmers could draft a constitution, and buy Washington DC.
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