Manual Targeting Problems - Page 2

CapnScurvy · 05-22-11, 09:35 PM

When I say lethal I'm not talking about changing the depth perception at which the planes can see you through the water. I have no plans on changing that parameter over stock. I know TMO does, I don't know if RFB 2.0 tried to follow. I do know when I worked on RFB, earlier than 2.0, it did not.

The lethality is going to come from better visual range for the planes (which as nothing to do with their ability to see through water), plus an effort to have radar placed on planes after mid/late 1943 which will increase their contact possibilities. Their bombs are going to be increased in hit points, as well as increasing the damage area effected by the blast. Their sorties from the carrier or land bases will be increased but the shear number of planes will actually decrease from stock. You'll have a greater chance of getting a fly-over if you send messages back to base or make contact with the enemy through an attack. I've decreased the chances for a night time attack, but increased the chance of an air strike if your detected in any way. In other words these changes will effect you IF you get caught out on the surface or let your guard down by having your boat detected.

The enemy AI for surface ships will have an increase in their ability to detect you. You won't have a prolonged time to keep a periscope above water as in the stock game. If you do, you'll notice evasive actions or even offensive measures much earlier than before. The warship's will take a longer period of time to lose interest in your detection. The depth charges, like the planes bombs, will have their effects increased.

All in all, this optional mod will cause you to think more like a real life Captain who's attack plan takes in the consideration of staying alive as much as the need to prosecute the war with the enemy.

Daniel Prates · 05-23-11, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

All in all, this optional mod will cause you to think more like a real life Captain who's attack plan takes in the consideration of staying alive as much as the need to prosecute the war with the enemy.

This guy is tougher than a legionaire.

CapnScurvy · 05-23-11, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

About planes being more lethal; why would you want them to be?
I tested their abilities in my setup with RFB 2.0 to see what a "safe" depth was. I found that they could sometimes "see" me even at 220 feet! In other words there was no "safe" depth. At least not for a S-boat. I also found they would spot me at periscope depth as easily as when surfaced. From my perspective they are lethal enough.

I had a hunch that RFB 2.0 had done some "tweaking" with the planes visuals and I'm right. LukeFF let the issue of planes "seeing" through water really get out of hand with this one. For my curiosity I followed up on what, if anything, RFB 2.0 may have done. Here's what I found.

This entry sets the "size" of an object seen by the sensor its linked to. In this case the Air2_Visual is what the RFB planes use. This -75.0 wouldn't mean anything unless you have a base number to compare it to. The stock parameter for this entry is 0.0. So, RFB 2.0 decided to make the size of an object seen really small. Which means it will see objects much easier than an 0.0 set entry.

Let's look at TMO 2.0 which has a known effect of having it's sub "seen" under water.

TMO 2.0 has this parameter set at only -2.2. Quite a difference from the -75.0 RFB entry. I suspect because of the chatter from TMO players this issue was changed with the TMO 2.1 patch. Here's the entry for it.

The entry is set back to stock again. So it looks like Duci heard some of your thoughts about having the sub seen through the water and did something about it. Good for him!

Now if he would only do something about the Hiryu having a 20 meter mast height?!