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Old 05-04-11, 11:52 AM   #16
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All governments do, its just that some governments say they don't and some people really believe their governments when they say it.
Are you one of those people who believe it tater?
Nah, I think they should stop lying and simply kill them.

That said, there is a diplomatic difference between talking on the sly, and doing so openly. The latter raises the organization in question, and hence sends a different message.

Such conversations should not be held "in the open" as it gives the terrorists a standing they do not deserve. Diplomacy is all about such subtlety of detail (even if galling to people in "plain english.")
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Old 05-04-11, 12:03 PM   #17
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All governments do, its just that some governments say they don't and some people really believe their governments when they say it.
Are you one of those people who believe it tater?
You start to show paterns....
Reptiles in Washington err... Jerusalem.
OK...lets say Tel Aviv for PC.

Lets say there is an case to support terrorism in short run.
You can use certain event for political gains.
There is no reason to do it in long perspective unless you have some evil scheme to take over the world.
So if Benjamin Netaniahu jumps on event and says "I told you so" its partly political move but it doesn't mean that he is supporting terror.
When BB is right or somthing fits his scheme it doesn't automatically make it some Israeli evil plan.


Palestinians have long tradition of shooting in their own legs.
Abu Mazen just could keep on doing what he did till now it worked for him very well...he chose differently-Israelis brain washed him and supported hammas.

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Old 05-04-11, 04:01 PM   #18
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Antisemitic Cartoon In Bahraini Paper: Fatah-Hamas Reconciliation Squeezes Jews




Source: Al-Ayyam, Bahrain, May 3, 2011


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Old 05-04-11, 04:21 PM   #19
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Antisemitic Cartoon In Bahraini Paper: Fatah-Hamas Reconciliation Squeezes Jews




Source: Al-Ayyam, Bahrain, May 3, 2011


the rally cry



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Thats how they express themselves in Arab world every day.
Old story.
So that peace doesn't happen by mistake.
That way there is always someone to blame for their misery and high prices of humus/chees.
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Old 05-04-11, 05:48 PM   #20
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Thats how they express themselves in Arab world every day.
Old story.
So that peace doesn't happen by mistake.
That way there is always someone to blame for their misery and high prices of humus/chees.
Certainly, it has been around for a while but still up-to-date
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3rd strike.
Am I correct in thinking you have today found yourself a new website to visit Rockstar?
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3rd strike.
Am I correct in thinking you have today found yourself a new website to visit Rockstar?
No, no, I do not copy others' needs ... perhaps one could call it a coincidence, but I do not know exact what is his experience is based on, but I personally prefer to be present, it must be relevant conversation, and please if you been in the country in question, it is even better
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perhaps one could call it a coincidence
Perhaps, but it is strange that suddenly Rockstar just today starts posting 3 items from the same news gathering source.
I was just wondering if the MEMRI service was something new to him?
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Perhaps, but it is strange that suddenly Rockstar just today starts posting 3 items from the same news gathering source.
I was just wondering if the MEMRI service was something new to him?
Perhaps it may be that he thinks of various so-called clusters, I still handled think their articles are not always right angle, and does not reflect reality always, but an institution pleases himself
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Clinton Leaves Door Open After Palestinian Deal

PARIS — A day after the main Palestinian factions signed a unity agreement in Cairo, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton strikingly refused on Thursday to rule out further negotiations with a Palestinian side that included Hamas, the militant Islamic group that runs Gaza and is defined by many in the West as a terrorist organization. But she reiterated the Obama administration’s call for Hamas to accept basic conditions that included renouncing violence and recognizing Israel’s right to exist.

Mrs. Clinton spoke in Rome before a meeting on Libya as the leading protagonists in the Middle East conflict set out elsewhere to pursue their rival campaigns for sympathy and support on a larger stage, seeking European backing for their conflicting visions of peace and Palestinian statehood.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/wo...ideast.html?hp

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Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton strikingly refused on Thursday to rule out further negotiations with a Palestinian side that included Hamas
That is because they will have no choice. 4 of the 5 have said they are ready to give recognition, America could choose to stick it out alone but would weaken its position even more than it was weakened with the last vote.
The US has backed itself into a corner
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which is not the first time that the U.S, with an open fly
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