Strange issue..

[ryanglavin]

Hey guys! Strange problem today.

While in SH3 commander, I have the "Start patrol at sea" option unclicked, but when I go into game, it always starts me at sea. Any idea why?

(By the way, I also have GWX 3.0 Gold if that helps)

[desirableroasted]

Originally Posted by ryanglavin

Hey guys! Strange problem today.

While in SH3 commander, I have the "Start patrol at sea" option unclicked, but when I go into game, it always starts me at sea. Any idea why?

(By the way, I also have GWX 3.0 Gold if that helps)

Hmm. I have noticed that the setting you make at the start of a career can -- sometimes -- "stick" and override any settings you make later. I've had both your issue and the opposite (starting at dock, even when I have checked "start at sea.")

Moreover, it often fixes itself on the next patrol.

It has never irked me enough to investigate more deeply, though.

[frau kaleun]

Just a wild guess but could this have anything to do with not using Auto-Rollback?

I'm pretty sure there are some options that can seem to get "stickied" to the game if you don't let Commander roll them back each time you exit, but I don't know if starting position is one of them.

[ryanglavin]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Just a wild guess but could this have anything to do with not using Auto-Rollback?

I'm pretty sure there are some options that can seem to get "stickied" to the game if you don't let Commander roll them back each time you exit, but I don't know if starting position is one of them.

I always rollback after every patrol, as I heard you say that once before a long time ago and I've never forgot it. Its never fixed itself, and its been going on for about 20 patrols...

[frau kaleun]

Well, I think the starting spot is controlled by a long/lat setting given for a particular named location in the game... the start at sea option just alters it for the bases in whatever file that info is in, so the "dot" on the map for Kiel or Willy or whatever is moved and the game places you there instead of inside the harbor when you start a patrol.

I don't have access to the game files ATM, but if somebody knows which file contains that info you can check and see what the current long/lat settings are for the different bases, or maybe find another mod that's done something with that particular file and see if that's the source of the alternate info that's placing your base outside the harbor.

If "start at sea" is unchecked in Commander, I assume it wouldn't be making any changes to that info when you launch the game... so whatever is there already would be controlling your start position. The settings for the base's location on the map have gotten changed somehow, it sounds like, and Commander's not going to mess with them either way if you're not telling it to start you at sea, cuz it has no reason to touch them at all. Even if you did check 'start at sea' for one patrol, and then rolled back, it would just roll back to what was already there before you started that session, which is apparently placing your base outside the harbor anyway.

Seems like the simplest solution would be to find out what the original locations settings are for the bases and make sure they are in the proper spot in the game files before you start the next patrol. Then if you don't tell Commander to change them, and another mod is not altering that file after you make the corrections, the game should locate the bases back in their usual positions inside the harbors at the subpens.

[ryanglavin]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Well, I think the starting spot is controlled by a long/lat setting given for a particular named location in the game... the start at sea option just alters it for the bases in whatever file that info is in, so the "dot" on the map for Kiel or Willy or whatever is moved and the game places you there instead of inside the harbor when you start a patrol.

I don't have access to the game files ATM, but if somebody knows which file contains that info you can check and see what the current long/lat settings are for the different bases, or maybe find another mod that's done something with that particular file and see if that's the source of the alternate info that's placing your base outside the harbor.

If "start at sea" is unchecked in Commander, I assume it wouldn't be making any changes to that info when you launch the game... so whatever is there already would be controlling your start position. The settings for the base's location on the map have gotten changed somehow, it sounds like, and Commander's not going to mess with them either way if you're not telling it to start you at sea, cuz it has no reason to touch them at all. Even if you did check 'start at sea' for one patrol, and then rolled back, it would just roll back to what was already there before you started that session, which is apparently placing your base outside the harbor anyway.

Seems like the simplest solution would be to find out what the original locations settings are for the bases and make sure they are in the proper spot in the game files before you start the next patrol. Then if you don't tell Commander to change them, and another mod is not altering that file after you make the corrections, the game should locate the bases back in their usual positions inside the harbors at the subpens.

Oh wow. I'll just wait for someone to find the file, haha. I'm horrible at computer files.