[TEC] SH5.exe patches to fix bugs and add functionality - Page 2

TheDarkWraith · 03-17-11, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SashaKA001

how to do this?

I use to view and edit the program 010 Editor v3. or if you need another program to edit?

you should be able to open your SH5.exe file with any hex editor. I use Hex Workshop. I think you can download a free trial of Hex Workshop from the internet (the maker of it is Breakpoint Software).

Are you having trouble opening the sh5.exe or finding the byte to change

SashaKA001 · 03-17-11, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

you should be able to open your SH5.exe file with any hex editor. I use Hex Workshop. I think you can download a free trial of Hex Workshop from the internet (the maker of it is Breakpoint Software).

Are you having trouble opening the sh5.exe or finding the byte to change

no bytes can not find, but I think they are the same or not

TheDarkWraith · 03-17-11, 11:20 AM

at the bottom right of your screenshot you'll see this:

Pos 0 [0h]

You need to scroll through the file until you make that say 197A4Ah then you'll see the byte (75) to change to 74

I would post a screenshot of this location so everyone could see but I don't want to get into legal issues of any kind

It's not illegal to provide information on how to do something in software. Reverse engineering is used all the time in the software industry to learn about undocumented functions in applications and to figure out how viruses do their dirty work for example. It is illegal to provide a patched/modifed version of the software to end-users without permission from the creator(s). What you do with your licensed version for your own use is up to you

Krauter · 03-17-11, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

The only way that could be accomplished is with active sonar (ping) but even that would be susceptible to some error (range). The only way you can currently get that range to target on that bearing is by asking the sonarman for it in my UIs mod.

The only problem I see with this is that U-boats were not equipped with any active sonar (pinging equipment) only passive sonar (hydrophones). Thus, how does the sonarman instantly get a range solution (assuming that he uses ping, which is not available to German U-boats..)

As I'm not familiar with your UIs mod (dam this laptop for being a mac..) I'm not familiar with the routine to get range from sonar. But unless it's triangulation it's not realistic IMO.

TheDarkWraith · 03-17-11, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

The only problem I see with this is that U-boats were not equipped with any active sonar (pinging equipment) only passive sonar (hydrophones). Thus, how does the sonarman instantly get a range solution (assuming that he uses ping, which is not available to German U-boats..)

As I'm not familiar with your UIs mod (dam this laptop for being a mac..) I'm not familiar with the routine to get range from sonar. But unless it's triangulation it's not realistic IMO.

The game makes a command available in the commands.cfg file that allows you to get the exact range to target. That's how the sonarman can instantly get you a range solution. That's why I said it's only cheating if you use the sonarman this way from my UIs mod. If you don't then you don't get range to target. All you get is bearing info from the hydrophone station.

Krauter · 03-17-11, 11:44 AM

Aah. By the way this was not meant as a jab or anything

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Perhaps it could be implemented (unless it isn't already) where you have to take at least two bearings to target with a reasonable time span to get a range solution?

TheDarkWraith · 03-17-11, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

Aah. By the way this was not meant as a jab or anything

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Perhaps it could be implemented (unless it isn't already) where you have to take at least two bearings to target with a reasonable time span to get a range solution?

I didn't take it as a jab so don't worry

That could be implemented via further patching. Being that I finally discovered where this function is located I am just starting to understand what/how it works by decoding it. This is a very tedious and time-consuming ordeal. Any kind of work like this takes time and patience.

Krauter · 03-17-11, 11:51 AM

Well. All the best in your work then

And besides.. I've got about 5-6 more years till I'm done my degree so I go a good little bit of time to wait till I can play Sh5 anyways

Cheers mate! And thank god for you or else this game would've gone bottoms up long ago.

TheDarkWraith · 03-17-11, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

And besides.. I've got about 5-6 more years till I'm done my degree so I go a good little bit of time to wait till I can play Sh5 anyways

That's the one thing I never had to do, go to college (I have no degree and am proud to say it. You can be successfull without one

). All my training was from the military

Everything else I needed to know I got from reading (and still reading!) books

Trevally. · 03-17-11, 12:35 PM

Some info on active sonar

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Folks,

German U-boats of WW2 DID have active sonar..they just did not use it and it was eventually removed.

The type VII was fitted with active sonar in the mid 40 time frame.It was a revolving
transducer like the KBT mount seen later in the war.The reasons that it was removed later on and that we don't hear of U-boats using active sonar are as follows:

1. It was a 'trainable' device not an 'array' like the GHG so it had relatively short range...only 3000-4000 meters under good conditions. The passive GHG could hear an individual ship at around 20000 meters and a convoy at approx 100nm
(again these are under ideal conditions). An active 'array' would have given much greater range (probably out to 15000 meters).

2. Allied escorts could hear the active pulses and home in on them from well beyond the sonars effective range.

3. It was not as sophisticated as the 'Neiubling' system on the type XXI and was not linked into the U-boats fire control system like the 'Neiubling' was. This meant that it took a relatively long time to figure out a targets course/speed etc using the sonar...all the time transmitting and letting the escorts know where you are.
The XXI soanar needed as few as 3 pings to determine target speed/course which was fed directley to the fire control system allowing the tactic called 'deep directed shooting'. The tactics which where devised by test group 'Sultan' for the XXI were these. The target would be located at long range by the GHG and teh U-boat positioned on a interceot course. As the strength of the contact on the GHG
increased and the GHG operator thought that the target was withing 10000 meters the 'Neiubling' was switched on to 'listen only' mode. The system had a cathode ray screen to diplay all contacts and in 'listen only' mode it displayed ocean noise. When the propellor noise of the ship/s could be seen on the screen (as a regular series of spikes across the bottom of the screen - the beats of the propellor blades - the set was switched to 'active' and several pulses sent out.

4. As the allies increasingly used radar to spot surfaced U-boats the U-boats started carrying radar warning devices. The associated electronics cabinets had to go somewhere and the space used by the little used active sonar seemed like the ideal place.

http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,59905,60690

SashaKA001 · 03-17-11, 12:52 PM

jwilliams · 03-17-11, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

- go to address 0x197A4A and change the byte from 75 to 74

good work. thank-you.

Magic1111 · 03-17-11, 02:12 PM

Can I use the fixed SH5.exe during Mid-patrol or should I wait when I´m beeing in port ?

Best regards,
Magic

Church SUBSIM · 03-17-11, 03:27 PM

It didn't work for me in mid patrol from a saved.

The sonar man would reply to the command asking him where the nearest sound contact was but when I would go listen at the hydro station I could not hear the ship. I fired a torp at the ship and I could hear the whistle of the torp.

Think it was a saved game issue.

===============

Yep saved game issue. Works well - thanks TDW!

sirbum69 · 03-17-11, 04:28 PM

You know TDW im really starting to wander why in the hell you didnt develope this game.

The things you have done and things you have fixed that make this game even remotly enjoyable to play are Enormous. I pre-ordered this game thinking it was going to be like SH3 and 4 only to place it on my shelf 3 weeks later.

Then you started working on it and man, i come back to a Totally different game with your UI. Now you go and do something like this and just blow me away again...

To you sir i Tip my hat and say Thank you for allowing me the enjoyment of getting my $50.00 dollars back from a maker who stole it with crap!!!!!

Cheers

03-17-11, 11:20 AM	#18
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	at the bottom right of your screenshot you'll see this: Pos 0 [0h] You need to scroll through the file until you make that say 197A4Ah then you'll see the byte (75) to change to 74 I would post a screenshot of this location so everyone could see but I don't want to get into legal issues of any kind It's not illegal to provide information on how to do something in software. Reverse engineering is used all the time in the software industry to learn about undocumented functions in applications and to figure out how viruses do their dirty work for example. It is illegal to provide a patched/modifed version of the software to end-users without permission from the creator(s). What you do with your licensed version for your own use is up to you Last edited by TheDarkWraith; 03-17-11 at 11:46 AM.

03-17-11, 02:12 PM	#28
Magic1111 Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany - Sailing on U-552 in North Atlantic Posts: 4,429 Downloads: 783 Uploads: 0	Can I use the fixed SH5.exe during Mid-patrol or should I wait when I´m beeing in port ? Best regards, Magic __________________

03-17-11, 03:27 PM	#29
Church SUBSIM Weps Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 353 Downloads: 121 Uploads: 4	It didn't work for me in mid patrol from a saved. The sonar man would reply to the command asking him where the nearest sound contact was but when I would go listen at the hydro station I could not hear the ship. I fired a torp at the ship and I could hear the whistle of the torp. Think it was a saved game issue. =============== Yep saved game issue. Works well - thanks TDW! __________________ Last edited by Church SUBSIM; 03-17-11 at 04:46 PM.

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SashaKA001 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: 47°46′46″N, 37°14′51″E Posts: 271 Downloads: 231 Uploads: 0

03-17-11, 04:28 PM	#30
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	You know TDW im really starting to wander why in the hell you didnt develope this game. The things you have done and things you have fixed that make this game even remotly enjoyable to play are Enormous. I pre-ordered this game thinking it was going to be like SH3 and 4 only to place it on my shelf 3 weeks later. Then you started working on it and man, i come back to a Totally different game with your UI. Now you go and do something like this and just blow me away again... To you sir i Tip my hat and say Thank you for allowing me the enjoyment of getting my $50.00 dollars back from a maker who stole it with crap!!!!! Cheers