Illegal Immigrants necessary because Blacks and Whites are too lazy to work -SC Sen.

[CaptainHaplo]

Da brothers and da blue eyed brothers are all just too lazy to work, so we shouldn't enforce the laws of the land. At least, so says SC State Senator Robert Ford....

http://www.startribune.com/nation/11...Dua_eyD5PcOiUr

"The brothers are going to find ways to take a break. Ever since this country was built, we've had somebody do the work for us."

The state NAACP calls the remarks "unfortunate" - but if the esteemed senator himself had not been black, but rather white, wouldn't this be national news with all kinds of demands for resignation due to hate and bigotry?

I guess since the guy is black and a democrat he gets a pass though. We will never have racial equality in this nation until we hold everyone to the same standard.

[Gerald]

I say BS!!!

[CaptainHaplo]

To his position or to the fact he said it at all? A quick web search will confirm through multiple sources that such statements by Sen. Ford did in fact occur.

[yubba]

We got a new sheriff in town as our new govenor, Rick Scott in Florida ,I don't know if this is too little too late. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news...medical-center

I don't know if this is too little too late

The advantages of e-verify.
Fake ID becomes useless when it can be quickly checked

[Freiwillige]

Yea unfortunate, that this nation has always had a double standard in my lifetime. All men are created equal unless your a minority then you get preferential treatment, wait what?

I am so tired of all the double talk, that something said is only offensive based on the color of who is saying it. I was raised to see that race doesn't exist, That our differences are only skin deep. That we are all equal. Now the same groups that promoted that ideal are the ones who are creating a social backlash against it with their race based school quotas and their affirmative action programs that say that race doesn't exist and to say it does is racist, now we are going to be handing out scholarships and jobs based on race. LOL WHAT!

Nobody should be held back in this great nation yet at the same time nobody should be put at the front of the line either based on religion, Race, sexual preference. That to me is just as bad as the opposite end of the spectrum. We all sink or swim based on our own ability's that is the America that they preach, but will it ever become a reality?

That is one funny politician.
He may be a prick and have some dodgy policies, but he certainly is funny.

if the esteemed senator himself had not been black, but rather white, wouldn't this be national news with all kinds of demands for resignation due to hate and bigotry?

That's the price you pay for your history.

We will never have racial equality in this nation until we hold everyone to the same standard.

Face it, you will never be able to tell Jewish jokes acceptably unless you are jewish due to the history on anti-semitism, a black comedian can get away with calling black people n......, you can't as white people have a big bad history with that.

[AVGWarhawk]

I agree with they guy. However, the laws need to be enforced.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Well, he's certainly tactless and doesn't really know what he's talking about, but he has something resembling a point.

What he means to say is that he's notcied the fact that "Americanized" people work fewer hours for more pay and expect more out of life. That's just a natural result of a higher standard of living, of course. Most Hispanic families that have been here for a generation or two are just as "lazy" as blacks and whites. I don't really understand what it is he intends to do about it, but.....whatever.

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I guess since the guy is black and a democrat he gets a pass though. We will never have racial equality in this nation until we hold everyone to the same standard.

That's a negative, Hap. Even if everyone was held to the same standard, we'd still never have racial equality because different races are, in fact, different. The cultures they create are also different. Those cultures create sub-cultures that differ still further, and below it all is the overriding biological human need to form social groups that are distinguishable from others. If everyone on the planet were magically transformed into members of a perfectly homogenous race/culture structure overnight, they'd balkanize along any lines they could find and be at each others' throats within a generation, save where united by a common enemy (real or imagined). That's not just human nature, it's the nature of every gene in every organism on the planet. /disagreement

I think that what harms us most is not the obvious lack of equality, whether along lines of race or gender or creed or whatever, but the reckless pursuit of it. In calling attention to the situation of one group or another, you've just put them into an identifiable group, which is about as good as fashioning them into a target.

One of the reasons I'm such an ardent capitalist is because money treats all people equally. It doesn't care who you are or what you look like, it only demands an acceptable return. Money from nations around the world flocks to the shores of other countries, even some that are suspect or hostile. Workers in dirt-poor countries that have been stigmatized in just about every way possible (China) are given a chance at a better life and are earning one through their own efforts. That's about as equal as anything is ever going to get.

[Buddahaid]

Popcorn time.

[CaptainHaplo]

Even if everyone was held to the same standard, we'd still never have racial equality because different races are, in fact, different.

There is a disparity here that I think your missing. While the same standard won't BE racial equality, you can't have racial equality by using different standards. It is a key component of the entire equation.

You said it yourself - money treats everyone equally. Just as we humans should be doing. Unfortunately, SHOULD is the key word.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

There is a disparity here that I think your missing. While the same standard won't BE racial equality, you can't have racial equality by using different standards. It is a key component of the entire equation.

You said it yourself - money treats everyone equally. Just as we humans should be doing. Unfortunately, SHOULD is the key word.

We have many of the same thoughts on this subject, but as you said, the key word is "should". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I know what you mean by racial equality, Hap. You mean the same thing I mean; the playing field should be level, but there's nothing we could do about the way the grass grows or how the wind is blowing or who's on the team.

If that's the case, we have very little to disagree upon. I just tend to jump on the term "equality" because it is so often interpreted to mean "equality of outcome".