Um, REALLY!?!?! Assange for Nobel Peace Prize!?!?!?!? - Page 2

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-31-11, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Truth!

Well, to be fair, NOT being Bush is pretty HUGE

UnderseaLcpl · 01-31-11, 04:01 PM

Assange isn't so bad considering some past nominees. Woodrow Wilson won a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts in forming the League of Nations, which involved going to war and sacrificing hundreds of thousands of soldiers' lives and lying to the public to gain a seat at the peace conference table. Then he did nothing while the British continued to blockade Germany after the cessation of hostilities, even though thousands were starving to death every week. Then he did more nothing while Europe redrew the borders of the world into a fractalized wreck with the intent of securing the dominance of Britain and France, which set the stage for generations of wars and civil unrest to come.

Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh?

Takao · 01-31-11, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldorak

...Assange hasn't killed anyone and has started a moral revolution is how people expect to view their governments doings.

He has??? I guess you are to young to remember the Vietnam War and a major fuss created when "the Pentagon Papers." were "leaked", in 1971(the year Assange was born), to a certain Democrat Senator from Alaska. Perhaps you are also too young to remember another famous incident, from the same time frame, often referred to as "Watergate."

Assange is doing nothing that has not been done for years now. It is just that the internet allows for a much easier transfer of information.

krashkart · 01-31-11, 04:48 PM

The article is only speculating about who might be nominated for a prize this year. It doesn't say that he will actually win.

Speaking of Assange, anyone else watch his interview on 60 Minutes last night?

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh?

Splendid idea!

goldorak · 01-31-11, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takao

He has??? I guess you are to young to remember the Vietnam War and a major fuss created when "the Pentagon Papers." were "leaked", in 1971(the year Assange was born), to a certain Democrat Senator from Alaska. Perhaps you are also too young to remember another famous incident, from the same time frame, often referred to as "Watergate."

Assange is doing nothing that has not been done for years now. It is just that the internet allows for a much easier transfer of information.

Ah but the point is this : in the last 10-20 years journalism has basically abdicated its role of keeping in check the government (the fourth power all but gone nowadays). You know doing those kinds of inquiries and uncovering hot truths that real journalists used to do. As in the watergate scandal and the "pentagon papers" you refered to. The american journalism of the seventies and eighties was much more serious than what we have know. Its all reduced to infotainment. And wikileaks has given a good kick in the ass to the journalistic profession to make them start doing their job again and not just pay lip service to the government.
So yeah Wikileaks may not be doing something innovative in the grand scheme of things, but it did something that the whole journalistic profession had forgotten how to do. Report and uncover the truth. And this is worthy of merit.

mookiemookie · 01-31-11, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldorak

Ah but the point is this : in the last 10-20 years journalism has basically abdicated its role of keeping in check the government (the fourth power all but gone nowadays). You know doing those kinds of inquiries and uncovering hot truths that real journalists used to do. As in the watergate scandal and the "pentagon papers" you refered to. The american journalism of the seventies and eighties was much more serious than what we have know. Its all reduced to infotainment. And wikileaks has given a good kick in the ass to the journalistic profession to make them start doing their job again and not just pay lip service to the government.
So yeah Wikileaks may not be doing something innovative in the grand scheme of things, but it did something that the whole journalistic profession had forgotten how to do. Report and uncover the truth. And this is worthy of merit.

Very well said!

Growler · 01-31-11, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh?

This. Is. Brilliant.

It's either this, or the Nobel PoS Prize.

Castout · 01-31-11, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

No he hasn't.

Indeed he hasn't but the people or institution he's exposing would be tempted to use violence against him maybe not while he's still enjoying high media profile but when the dust has settled in some years. I feel the man is holding a vengeance. hard to believe he's not.

Castout · 01-31-11, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Well, to be fair, NOT being Bush is pretty HUGE

Absolutely irrelevant. Still no reason to award a nobel peace prize. Unless Obama had been actively trying not to be Bush

which would be saying that he was actually like Bush only that he had been actively trying not to be like Bush

MH · 01-31-11, 05:41 PM

I still try try to figure out what so revolutionary about wikileaks and Assange.
What is it the guy uncovered that contributed so much for world peace besides a fact that politics is dirty...war is dirty.

gimpy117 · 01-31-11, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Well, to be fair, NOT being Bush is pretty HUGE

agree

TLAM Strike · 01-31-11, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh?

The Dear Leader has already won the Nobel Peace Prize, in fact he has won all the Nobel Prizes last year.

Praise to the Dear Leader!

krashkart · 01-31-11, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

The Dear Leader has already won the Nobel Peace Prize, in fact he has won all the Nobel Prizes last year.

Praise to the Dear Leader!

He also won the Indy 500 four years in a row. And he taught Phil Mickelson everything there is to know about golf while simultaneously impregnating every female on the set of Heathers. These things I know for fact.

Platapus · 01-31-11, 09:11 PM

The winning of the Noble Peace Prize ranks up there with being named Time's Dude of the Year. Both really mean dick.

Have you ever heard anyone say that they vehemently disagree with someone's idea but suddenly change their mind upon finding out that the idea person won the Noble Peace Prize? I haven't.

I have not heard of people running for political office with winning the Noble Prize as their core platform.

It is a private award from a private organization. It is important only if we make it important. Does anyone really remember who won the Noble Prize 10 years ago? 5 years ago?

Not much to get excited about actually.

the_tyrant · 01-31-11, 10:10 PM

just like liu xiaobo last year, the nobel peace prize turned into the "piss of your local government prize"

Kim Jiong Il deserved it more, for not escalating the Korean peninsula crisis

01-31-11, 04:01 PM	#17
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Assange isn't so bad considering some past nominees. Woodrow Wilson won a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts in forming the League of Nations, which involved going to war and sacrificing hundreds of thousands of soldiers' lives and lying to the public to gain a seat at the peace conference table. Then he did nothing while the British continued to blockade Germany after the cessation of hostilities, even though thousands were starving to death every week. Then he did more nothing while Europe redrew the borders of the world into a fractalized wreck with the intent of securing the dominance of Britain and France, which set the stage for generations of wars and civil unrest to come. Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh? __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

01-31-11, 09:11 PM	#29
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The winning of the Noble Peace Prize ranks up there with being named Time's Dude of the Year. Both really mean dick. Have you ever heard anyone say that they vehemently disagree with someone's idea but suddenly change their mind upon finding out that the idea person won the Noble Peace Prize? I haven't. I have not heard of people running for political office with winning the Noble Prize as their core platform. It is a private award from a private organization. It is important only if we make it important. Does anyone really remember who won the Noble Prize 10 years ago? 5 years ago? Not much to get excited about actually. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-31-11, 10:10 PM	#30
the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	just like liu xiaobo last year, the nobel peace prize turned into the "piss of your local government prize" Kim Jiong Il deserved it more, for not escalating the Korean peninsula crisis __________________ My own open source project on Sourceforge OTP.net KGB grade encryption for the rest of us

01-31-11, 05:41 PM	#25
MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	I still try try to figure out what so revolutionary about wikileaks and Assange. What is it the guy uncovered that contributed so much for world peace besides a fact that politics is dirty...war is dirty.