Can you say "Jurassic Park"?

Dowly · 01-17-11, 02:48 PM

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A Japanese team is planning to try to bring mammoths back to life after establising a way to extract DNA from their frozen cells.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110117...sciencemammoth

Someone better call Jeff Goldblum.

EDIT: Replaced link, last one had slight nudity.

frau kaleun · 01-17-11, 03:04 PM

Well it looks like I won't be asking Santa for a baby elephant any more... baby woolly mammoth FTW!

AVGWarhawk · 01-17-11, 03:04 PM

With cloning and gene manipulation it was about to happen sooner or later. I just wonder what would happen to the natural order of things if prehistoric animals were allowed to multiply in today's world.

frau kaleun · 01-17-11, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

With cloning and gene manipulation it was about to happen sooner or later. I just wonder what would happen to the natural order of things if prehistoric animals were allowed to multiply in today's world.

I don't see how anything could possibly go wro-

the_tyrant · 01-17-11, 03:19 PM

Japan+genetic technology=

August · 01-17-11, 03:25 PM

I just last night watched the DVD boxed set of The Pacific with an all growed up Joe Mazello and here you are talking about Jurassic Park. Coincidence?

nikimcbee · 01-17-11, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I just last night watched the DVD boxed set of The Pacific with an all growed up Joe Mazello and here you are talking about Jurassic Park. Coincidence?

That's odd, I thought you were watching the game?

tater · 01-18-11, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by August

I just last night watched the DVD boxed set of The Pacific with an all growed up Joe Mazello and here you are talking about Jurassic Park. Coincidence?

Holy crap. I didn't recognize him. Damn, that makes me feel old (I have friends who did effects for JP).

longam · 01-17-11, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

I don't see how anything could possibly go wro-

As long as they eat all the blood sucking lawyers first, we'll be fine.

Growler · 01-17-11, 05:30 PM

John Hammond: Don't worry, I'm not making the same mistakes again.
Dr. Ian Malcolm: No, you're making all new ones.

01-18-11, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by longam

As long as they eat all the blood sucking lawyers first, we'll be fine.

I kinda like the idea of naming one president, we might actually get some stuff done in Washington if we do.

UnderseaLcpl · 01-18-11, 07:15 AM

Does this sound to anyone else as though it wouldn't work without making serious genetic modifications to the mammoth? Wouldn't the mother's.... I mean parent 1's or 2's, or whatever's body reject the embryo? Well, not reject the embryo per se but end up toxifying or starving it? And that's assuming they even get it to a placental stage.

There's a reason why you can't make a chimp give birth to a human or killer whale to a bottlenose dolphin or what have you, and I don't mean some divine reason or the fact that it would be very....unnatural. Elephants and mammoths are pretty close from a genetic perspective, but they aren't that close. There's quite a bit of difficulty involved with implanting an embryo amongst members of the exact same species, and that's without having the zygote's chromosomal structure replaced by that of a species which has not been co-evolving for like, 10,000 years.

I must admit, I've never cloned an animal myself so I have to assume that these guys have some kind of workaround, but even so I can't help but get the feeling that somebody didn't think this through. Time will tell, but if their intent is to simply stick mammoth genes in an elephant cell, as the article puts it, I'm pretty dang sure this won't work.

Tchocky · 01-17-11, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

EDIT: Replaced link, last one had slight nudity.

Normally I'd complain, but the new URL has JAPAN SCIENCE MAMMOTH in it

nikimcbee · 01-17-11, 04:59 PM

I wish they'd use that knowledge to clone insulin cells instead of @#$% dinosaurs.

It would do me a lot more good.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I just last night watched the DVD boxed set of The Pacific with an all growed up Joe Mazello and here you are talking about Jurassic Park. Coincidence? __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Does this sound to anyone else as though it wouldn't work without making serious genetic modifications to the mammoth? Wouldn't the mother's.... I mean parent 1's or 2's, or whatever's body reject the embryo? Well, not reject the embryo per se but end up toxifying or starving it? And that's assuming they even get it to a placental stage. There's a reason why you can't make a chimp give birth to a human or killer whale to a bottlenose dolphin or what have you, and I don't mean some divine reason or the fact that it would be very....unnatural. Elephants and mammoths are pretty close from a genetic perspective, but they aren't that close. There's quite a bit of difficulty involved with implanting an embryo amongst members of the exact same species, and that's without having the zygote's chromosomal structure replaced by that of a species which has not been co-evolving for like, 10,000 years. I must admit, I've never cloned an animal myself so I have to assume that these guys have some kind of workaround, but even so I can't help but get the feeling that somebody didn't think this through. Time will tell, but if their intent is to simply stick mammoth genes in an elephant cell, as the article puts it, I'm pretty dang sure this won't work. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I wish they'd use that knowledge to clone insulin cells instead of @#$% dinosaurs. It would do me a lot more good. __________________