WWII Roadtrip in europe - Page 2

Sailor Steve · 11-23-10, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by McBeck

I cant see that theres anything left in Willhelmshaven...

That's because there never were any pens at Wilhelmshaven.

Penguin · 11-23-10, 12:36 PM

Oh, I forgot about Wilhemshaven, they have a Seehund there at the navy museum and also a type 205. http://www.marinemuseum.de/ However they hate foreigners, as the page is only in german

(You'll find the way description in the lower right corner, under "Anfahrt")

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's because there never were any pens at Wilhelmshaven.

True that! Actually the big sections for the Wilhelmshaven u-boats were bulit in the Hamburg pens.

McBeck · 11-24-10, 02:20 AM

Thanks guys!

Lots of great information

Betonov · 11-24-10, 05:00 AM

Yugoslav partisan resistance movement is a must if you're going anywhere near Slovenia, but as all guerilla's there's not much to see. A statue here a commemorative plaque there (about two per street).
Bolnica Franja (Franja hospital), a field hospital used by the partisans

Completely rebuilt after it was destroyed by severe flooding 3 years ago

and old german bunkers still scatered around the countryside

PhantomLord · 11-24-10, 06:29 AM

First:
If you already are in germany there´s another bunker you should visit:

Bunker "Valentin" - Bremen / Farge

A planned dockyard for the final assembly of type XXI sections. This is pure concreted megalomania...
Dont know if they do the tour in english too. And you´ve to hand out your passport for the time in there. This is still german army territory (material depot 2)

They will leave within the next time.

Hope this bunker will survive. Funding of security and maintenance is not secured now...

Second:
Technikmuseum Sinsheim and Speyer - a huge and well preserved collection of (not only) WWII tanks, planes and much more.

Fint it Here - Speyer and Here - Sinsheim

McBeck · 11-24-10, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's because there never were any pens at Wilhelmshaven.

DOH!

sharkbit · 11-24-10, 11:31 AM

Oradour sur Glane near Limoges, France.
Remains of a village where the inhabitants were massacred by units of the 2nd SS Panzer Division in June 1944.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour_sur_glane

As others have said, a visit to a concentration camp is worth it. They can be a sobering experience.

PhantomLord · 11-25-10, 06:17 AM

Peenemünde!

The biggest factory and research facility for special weapons like the V1 and V2.
The museum inside the old coal power plant is huge. The exhibiton guides you through the ages from WWII, first space craft´s like the russian "Sputnik" till now. Outside are some aircrafts, helo´s, rockets, a missile speedboat "Tarantul" and a soviet SSG Juliett-class....

You really need a whole day there

Peenemünde military test site

Red Heat · 11-25-10, 06:48 AM

Hello

I thing personaly that trip its a outstanding idea...but there is a lot to see in your voyage. And another place witch have a Historical interest and miltary interest ist Gibraltar!

I have ben there a few years a go...and i love it, and i hope one day be able to return there but with more more time avaiable...

The military history of Gibraltar during World War II:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...g_World_War_II

The history of Gibraltar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gibraltar

And Gibraltar today:

http://www.gibnet.com/tourist/index.htm

http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/main.php

Enjoy

11-24-10, 02:20 AM	#3
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys! Lots of great information __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

11-24-10, 06:29 AM	#5
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	First: If you already are in germany there´s another bunker you should visit: Bunker "Valentin" - Bremen / Farge A planned dockyard for the final assembly of type XXI sections. This is pure concreted megalomania... Dont know if they do the tour in english too. And you´ve to hand out your passport for the time in there. This is still german army territory (material depot 2) They will leave within the next time. Hope this bunker will survive. Funding of security and maintenance is not secured now... Second: Technikmuseum Sinsheim and Speyer - a huge and well preserved collection of (not only) WWII tanks, planes and much more. Fint it Here - Speyer and Here - Sinsheim __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~

11-24-10, 11:31 AM	#7
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Oradour sur Glane near Limoges, France. Remains of a village where the inhabitants were massacred by units of the 2nd SS Panzer Division in June 1944. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour_sur_glane As others have said, a visit to a concentration camp is worth it. They can be a sobering experience. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

11-25-10, 06:17 AM	#8
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Peenemünde! The biggest factory and research facility for special weapons like the V1 and V2. The museum inside the old coal power plant is huge. The exhibiton guides you through the ages from WWII, first space craft´s like the russian "Sputnik" till now. Outside are some aircrafts, helo´s, rockets, a missile speedboat "Tarantul" and a soviet SSG Juliett-class.... You really need a whole day there Peenemünde military test site __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~

11-25-10, 06:48 AM	#9
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Hello I thing personaly that trip its a outstanding idea...but there is a lot to see in your voyage. And another place witch have a Historical interest and miltary interest ist Gibraltar! I have ben there a few years a go...and i love it, and i hope one day be able to return there but with more more time avaiable... The military history of Gibraltar during World War II: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...g_World_War_II The history of Gibraltar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gibraltar And Gibraltar today: http://www.gibnet.com/tourist/index.htm http://www.gibraltar.gov.uk/main.php Enjoy __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

11-24-10, 05:00 AM	#4
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Yugoslav partisan resistance movement is a must if you're going anywhere near Slovenia, but as all guerilla's there's not much to see. A statue here a commemorative plaque there (about two per street). Bolnica Franja (Franja hospital), a field hospital used by the partisans Completely rebuilt after it was destroyed by severe flooding 3 years ago and old german bunkers still scatered around the countryside