Thats it... game over

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yes it does, it says a lot about other countries import taxes when you want to export to them.

It works both ways Tribesman. VW is making a new plant in the US because VW can not compete with Toyota and Honda here in the US. Why, Toyota and Honda build the cars here in the US. It is the same deal for Harley. How can Harley compete with Honda or Yamaha in India? How can Harley expand their company and stay competative? Manufacture the bikes in India.

[Ducimus]

Oh gee, more industry going overseas? I'll try and not act surprise since anything that says, "Made in USA" is a quaint idea that doesn't exist anymore. Harley davidsion offshoring to india? Just another nail in our national coffin. *shrug*

On another note, I guess we can cross harley davidson off as a national Icon now.

[Buddahaid]

It makes me Sikh!

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Oh gee, more industry going overseas? I'll try and not act surprise since anything that says, "Made in USA" is a quaint idea that doesn't exist anymore. Harley davidsion offshoring to india ,Just another nail in our national coffin.

On another note, I guess we can cross harley davidson off as a national Icon now.

The company is making motorcycles in India to sell to the market in India. I do not believe the motorcycles are being manufactured then put in a container to the US for sale. VW as an example builds in Mexico and Germany. These two places sell cars to the US market. However, making the cars in these two countries proves to be very expensive because of import tax, etc. This issue makes Toyota and Honda very price competative in the US. VW only answer to this problem was to build a manufacturing plant in the US. Doing this reduces the over all cost per unit thus making them price competative with Toyota and Honda. Will some cars manufactured in the US be shipped to other parts of the world? Probably not. VW has multiple plants around the globe. Harley will have a plant in India serving that market.

It works both ways Tribesman. VW is making a new plant in the US because VW can not compete with Toyota and Honda here in the US. Why, Toyota and Honda build the cars here in the US.

Indeed, so why is Steam all up with the "game over" line?

It is the same deal for Harley.

Its just business, normal everyday business and it cuts both ways.
After all the Japanese bike manufacturers also have worldwide manufacturing programs for worldwide markets. So whats the big deal about Harley doing the same?
It really seems like a story of nothing doesn't it.

I'll try and not act surprise since anything that says, "Made in USA" is a quaint idea that doesn't exist anymore.

Buy yourself a nice Star bike, "made in the good ol USA" don't worry if people say its really an American Yamaha.

[AVGWarhawk]

It really seems like a story of nothing doesn't it.

Not really. Harley as a company was on it's way out. Many removed from their jobs. Plants looking to close. Harley looks to have possibly revived itself all be it in another market on the other side of the globe. To many hardcore Harley motorheads this should be good news. After all, they can still buy a 'hog' that has "Made in the USA." To some that does not mean a hill of beans but to others it means a lot.

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What is stranger yet is Toyota, Honda and VW(soon) will have Assembled in the USA" stamped on them. What is even stranger is folks still view the car as Japanese or German. Perhaps by design but the cars are but the cars are "Made in America" after all.

[Ducimus]

What is stranger yet is Toyota, Honda and VW(soon) will have Assembled in the USA"

Assembled is not the same as made. Those cars are still MADE in Japan, or Germany. IMO, It's not an American product if its not made AND assembled HERE.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Assembled is not the same as made. Those cars are still MADE in Japan, or Germany. IMO, It's not an American product if its not made AND assembled HERE.

Is the VW Passat really built and manufactured in Germany? Well, yes and no. Most of the parts come from China. The transmission is a Japanese design. You will find this type of manufacturing across the board. I will say this Duci, I would not buy a Jetta assemblied in Mexico. No way. No how. Some of the poorest assembly quality seen just about anywhere. Would I buy a Toyota built in the USA and expect high quality craftsmanship? Certainly and for the most part the American working in these US factories deliver.

I do understand your point about being 100% American designed and made in the good ole USA!

[tater]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Game over for the 'made in america' mindset.

We just cant manufacture here and be competitive.

That simple sentance says alot.

For sale on the other side of the world. Its a good choice. Do you consider a Mercedes gl450 an American car? It's made here. If that Benz is German, then the Harley is American even made in India

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

It makes me Sikh!

LOL

[gimpy117]

hey, your bottom line is WAAAAAY more important than American Pride

[Castout]

The sound of Indian Harley Davidson

[Sailor Steve]

I have to agree with the guys who separate "assembled" from "made". Kawasaki has been assembling bikes in Lincoln, Nebraska, since 1974. Honda has been building cars in Marysville, Ohio since 1985. Are those vehicles "Made in America"? Harley afficianados would say no. Kawasaki and Honda fans say yes. Are they? Well, they do give jobs to Americans and save money doing it that way.

I'm no Harley fan, but if the bikes are being built in India to be sold in India, then it's the best, and smartest, way to do it.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

It makes me Sikh!

[Ducimus]

[Sailor Steve]

Oh, golly-gosh! I am thinking that was a most funny video! You are to be thanked for providing that humor for us.