Israel Has Until Week's End to Strike Iran,

Originally Posted by Zachstar

They wont attack. They arent THAT stupid.

I think stupidity has nothing to do with it. Unless you think the powers that be in Israel are stupid, of course. It would be a different calculation which brought israeli bombs upon Iran.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

They wont attack. They arent THAT stupid.

How is it stupid? Don't forget they did it before...

[nikimcbee]

okay, no attacks until after the subsim meeting. After that I don't care what they do.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

How is it stupid? Don't forget they did it before...

10 Iraqi soldiers killed
1 French scientist killed

France is everywhere

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Should I take a bow for looking the fool? If so, you have it.

Try not to take things so personally honestly it is not all about you.

I refering to the politicians in general saying something then having to come back later to 'clairify' or backtrack.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Personally I wonder who we (the west) are to say who can and can't have what we already have.

And as for Israel, it may be surrounded by myriad arabs but that doesn't give it the right to behave like a petulant child with the backing of it's petulant bigger brother.

I'm not an anti-semite (but even the slightest word out of place makes you one?) but Sykes-Picot agreement should never, ever, have been drawn up!

[Bilge_Rat]

Whether Israel will or will not attack is a difficult question. The IAF has been training to carry out this type of strike and now that they have the green light from Saudi Arabia to use its air space, it is a feasible option, although this could be part of an elaborate bluff to put pressure on Iran and the international community.

The strikes on the Iraqi and Syrian reactor sites were easier since it was one site that could easily be taken out. Iran has spread its sites around and put them in undergound hardened bunkers to make them harder to take out with one clean strike.

If Israel strikes, it may be able to delay the Iranian nuclear program for 2-5 years which is an eternity in the ME. On the other hand, no one knows what the Iranian response would be.

If Israel does not strike, the unlikely, but still plausible nightmare scenario, would be suicide bombers sneaking nuclear devices into Israel.

So no one knows, although based on past history, I would bet the IAF will strike within the next 12 months, if they have a clean opening.

[Eightbit]

and don't forget! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Personally I wonder who we (the west) are to say who can and can't have what we already have.

And as for Israel, it may be surrounded by myriad arabs but that doesn't give it the right to behave like a petulant child with the backing of it's petulant bigger brother.

I'm not an anti-semite (but even the slightest word out of place makes you one?) but Sykes-Picot agreement should never, ever, have been drawn up!

Who are we? I hate hearing this. We are the the super power.We created atomic weapons and have been a responsible steward since.There is no risk of us attacking a country unprovoked or handing off our nukes to terrorists.Our leaders(although the current batch are fools) do not want to wipe any nation off the map as Iran's President has said he wants to do to Israel. Iran is ran by Islamic nutjobs and have no right to have access to nuclear technology.Russia should be condemned for helping them.Bush allowed this to go on for years and Obama has continued to.

I hate to see it but I hope Israel strikes and sets them back, strike again if neccessary.Personally I think we could do it with stealth aircraft and should.Iran has been warned.I know the outcry in the muslim world that would come after but better than Iran having nuclear weapons.

Our leaders(although the current batch are fools) do not want to wipe any nation off the map as Iran's President has said he wants to do to Israel

As it happens your leaders do, and your favourite leader made a famous statement about doing just that.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

As it happens your leaders do, and your favourite leader made a famous statement about doing just that.

what nation does Obama want to wipe off the map? besides maybe the US lol seriously though?

Are you referring to Reagan when you say my "favorite leader" ? I don't recall him saying he wanted to wipe anyone off the map.Keep in mind I wasnt alive most of Reagan's term but from what I understand he did call the Soviets out(as he should have) and did want to defeat the "evil empire" which they were and he did just that.

Bush(certainly not my favorite) called Iran, Iraq, and NK the Axis of Evil, which was an accurate statement.Made Liberals heads spin but it was accurate.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

How is it stupid? Don't forget they did it before...

what nation does Obama want to wipe off the map?

Is it still your countries policy to reunite the korean peninsula as one country?
Chinas a bit dodgy as the choice was support Taiwan or recognise China.
so which of those nations must remain on the map?
That regime currently in Havana has got to go too hasn't it.

Are you referring to Reagan when you say my "favorite leader" ?

Indeed, can you find the nation known as the German democratic republic on a map now or has it been wiped away. Has that regime in Berlin been consigned to history.

[Platapus]

Anytime a nation considers taking any action against a second nation, the first nation should have an understanding of the possible outcomes.

What exactly does Israel think will be the reaction if they bomb the nuclear reactor? Do they really think the Iranians will simply say, ''Oops, I guess we lost. So sorry, I guess we should stop our entire nuclear industry". If so, then the Israelis are unwise.

Knocking out the power reactor in Brushehr will accomplish nothing but firm up the commitment of the hardliners in Iran to continue to hide and protect their nuclear industries. Does anyone really think that the Iranians will stop their nuclear industries if the Brushehr reactor is bombed? No, the Iranians will simply but more of their nuclear industries underground and we will have a much harder time monitoring them.

[Jimbuna]

Only time will tell if it's best to strike now or sit back and do nothing.

I can't see an Israeli strike doing much more than setting Irans nuclear programme back a little in time and the thought of a nuclear Iran gives me cause for concern on the potential consequences for the Middle East regionally.

Who'd want to play God?