Federal Judge blocks parts of the Arizona immigration law

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

So when it was signed not standing as predicted.

Source? I couldent find that.

Heres the official Statement by Jan Brewer

http://azgovernor.gov/dms/upload/PR_...orOnSB1070.pdf

Source? I couldent find that.

Try the first subsim topic on the issue.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by WarlordATF

Im refering more to the local level, your lawn service,your plumbers,construction companys, your corner store, your restarants, ect. if you suspect (You don't have to be sure, just go by gut instinct) they are hiring illegals don't give them your business.

Awesome idea! Penalize small local businesses because of gut instincts.

Small businesses who may not be doing anything wrong will then close down due to "gut instinct syndrome". What could be better for our economy than the emotional down-selection of businesses due to "gut instinct".

Drive small businesses out of the area! Hey, I don't have to be sure, it ain't my business

"you don't have to be sure".... awesome moral there! That's the sign of an intelligent and mature outlook. Why be sure, when you can just use your gut to make decisions!

At least the illegals are leaving Arizona in droves! The law might have been somewhat limited here but illegals are still leaving Arizona so it worked out regardless and that's all that matters. Get those taco peddling bastards out of America!

Get those taco peddling bastards out of America!

Would you like to join Snestorm in the white supremacist club?
Not calling you a brain dead neo nazi of course but can you explain how selling a taco makes you an illegal immigrant?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Would you like to join Snestorm in the white supremacist club?
Not calling you a brain dead neo nazi of course but can you explain how selling a taco makes you an illegal immigrant?

Ignore him. This is the kind of bigoted trash that we can do without here.

[ETR3(SS)]

If selling a taco makes you an illegal, I know a bunch of fat white nerds living in their mothers basement that need to be deported immediately!

[Sailor Steve]

Gone for who-knows how long, and the very first post pick up the racism right where it left off.

Gone for who-knows how long, and the very first post pick up the racism right where it left off.

OK back to the specifics.
Ain't it funny that Brewer signed it knowing parts of it wouldn't stand, the arizona crowd altered it because they knew parts of it ouldn't stand.
And now its getting grief from the courts as it cannot stand on the issues that Brewer said would stand for the very reasons that Brewer said had made it OK.

I am still waiting for them to try and work out how to train their police on how to enforce the unenforceable aspects of it and how to water down the fiscal clawback angle they foolishly wrote into it in a way that means the State taxpayer is going to be severely screwed for generations to come.

Knee jerk legislation, pandering to populism with very little real thought

[mookiemookie]

It's rare that I read something that I agree with 100%. This is one such article:

That's because, frankly, after several weeks of digesting arguments in favor and against the Arizona law, I can't figure out which group of actors I find less sympathetic.

There are the Arizonans who play dumb about why it is that their state became, in the past 20 years, a magnet for illegal immigrants when they must know full well that it's because so many Arizonans hire illegal immigrants to do jobs that Arizonans won't do.

And then we have the illegal immigrants themselves, who seem to be shocked and offended the United States dares to enforce its laws and some of whom are fleeing the state because, up to now, they've been playing dumb about what it means to be living in this country illegally.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/07/2...law/index.html

Neither side is right in this issue.

Neither side is right in this issue.

Which is why there is no side to take which is where again and again these Arizona topics fail.

The legislation is crap, no two ways about it, it won't work.
Yet if you say the legislation is crap and object to it then all of a sudden out fly the accusations that somehow you support illegal immigration or are anti american or both??????

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It's rare that I read something that I agree with 100%. This is one such article:



http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/07/2...law/index.html

Neither side is right in this issue.

Neither side has a clear "side" on the issue.

Ultimately, what needs to happen is the border needs to be closed. Period. End of discussion. In fact, politicians should not discuss ANYTHING about what should happen afterwards, because it's all moot and is routinely used as way to avoid taking the first, necessary step.

As far as the Arizona law goes, well, I just can't imagine the mindset one must have to have a problem with, quite literally, criminalizing an illegal behavior. I mean, really?

Section 2.


In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Would you like to join Snestorm in the white supremacist club?

It's not a white supremacist club at all. It's a non-criminal club!

BTW, there are many Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and other ethnic groups that are a part of this "club" that want to see criminals get forced out of our country.

Not calling you a brain dead neo nazi of course but can you explain how selling a taco makes you an illegal immigrant?

Simple. Selling tacos in this country without having US citizenship or a green card makes you an illegal immigrant. So therefore you should GTFO!

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Section 2.


In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction.

Perhaps something happened, but the judge of record has no jurisdiction here. Only the SCOTUS is the court of record. when it comes to states being part of the proceedings. We saw this when GWB stole the election from Al Gore.