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Old 07-09-10, 01:24 PM   #16
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Or it could be the "Whale Probe"...
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Old 07-09-10, 01:26 PM   #17
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I'm thinking a missile test went awry somehow.
No smoke trail. And witnesses said it was "hovering".

Who knows?
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Old 07-09-10, 03:57 PM   #18
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Like I said...could yet be a humorous explanation/porky from the Chinese Authorities yet awaiting us
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Old 07-09-10, 04:36 PM   #19
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A digitally enhanced high resolution image has been leaked !!!




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Old 07-09-10, 05:37 PM   #20
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The secretary general of some astronomy society in China says that it is, in fact, debris from an intercontinental United States missile... which doesn't explain why it was hovering, why no debris have been recovered, why it was necessary to shut down the airport for several hours, why it was detected on radar as a single object, OR more importantly WHY it was even being launched... or how the hell an astronomer managed to get his hands on military-privy information.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/inter...n-official-764

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It was later identified as debris from an intercontinental missile launched by the US, Song Huagang, secretary general of the Xinjiang Astronomy Society said.
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Old 07-09-10, 05:56 PM   #21
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The secretary general of some astronomy society in China says that it is, in fact, debris from an intercontinental United States missile... which doesn't explain why it was hovering, why no debris have been recovered, why it was necessary to shut down the airport for several hours, why it was detected on radar as a single object, OR more importantly WHY it was even being launched... or how the hell an astronomer managed to get his hands on military-privy information.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/inter...n-official-764



I call bull****.

"Hate America! Hate America! Hate America!" Typical monkey-speak.
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Old 07-09-10, 06:04 PM   #22
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WTF krashkart? How did you get "Hate America!" from that article?
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Old 07-09-10, 06:09 PM   #23
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It's as good if not better than the footage captured by MIGs in the Soviet Union scrambled to intercept one.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5100897567649#
This story - at least as presented in the video - doesn't hold water. The in-cockpit shots are clearly from the backseat of an F-15D, or maybe an F-15E, and not of any MiG whatsoever. The "cigar" shaped object is probably an airliner, tanker, target drone, or what have you. Also, the MiG-21s taking of in the beginning of the video is a quite familiar scene to me, I've seen it often over the years in different documentaries.
So, while there easily might have been an incident where Soviet MiGs intercepted a UFO, the above video doesn't show any of this at all.

For me, it's a bit ironic that this topic is coming up now, because I recently got into this UFO thing a bit, and a bit more in earnest, out of curiosity. In the last two years or so there have been some good shows that I was now watching on youtube and which are making some good points and / or do have some credible witnesses / material (e.g. Air Force people, or actual radio transmissions of some incidents etc). I'm especially intrigued by the idea of "Ancient Aliens / Astronauts" theories - that Aliens might have been visiting some of the ancient civilizations etc. Them ancient people building walls with 20 ton stones - uhm, did they? Or how could they cut into solid rocks / granite so well and accurate that we would have a hard time to reproduce the same kind of accuracy with today's tools and technics etc.

I've yet to see some definite proof, but I figure, even if it's all a hoax or can be explained, it made for some good entertainment nonetheless.
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Old 07-09-10, 06:16 PM   #24
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Them ancient people building walls with 20 ton stones - uhm, did they? Or how could they cut into solid rocks / granite so well and accurate that we would have a hard time to reproduce the same kind of accuracy with today's tools and technics etc.
That's piqued my curiosity. I don't suppose you have links for some of that stuff about cutting up rocks?
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Old 07-09-10, 06:25 PM   #25
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That's piqued my curiosity. I don't suppose you have links for some of that stuff about cutting up rocks?


Check this link out. It is the first of a 5 (or 4?) part series on "Ancient Aliens", each part cut up in 9 clips or so.

The later parts of the series seem to go more and more out there and get hard to swallow, but especially this first episode ("Ancient Aliens - The Evidence") is quite interesting I think.


Another interesting video was an episode of "UFO Hunters", with radio transmissions of an incident:



Or this one:



Enjoy. If nothing else, it's good fun to watch. Watch out for the Bill guy of UFO hunters though (the one with the sun glasses). He's pretty far out there.
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Old 07-09-10, 06:43 PM   #27
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WTF krashkart? How did you get "Hate America!" from that article?

American missile over China? Smacks of brainwashing to me.

To each his own. I resume lurkitude.


EDIT - I took 'missile' from the post, not the article. My bad.
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Don't go lurking or I'll feel bad. I just thought you had grabbed the wrong end of the stick.
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Old 07-09-10, 07:21 PM   #29
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Don't go lurking or I'll feel bad. I just thought you had grabbed the wrong end of the stick.
Don't feel bad, it's my nature to lurk around and drop a punchline somewhere in the mix. Usually anyway. I don't know what got me so upset. Maybe it's too much worry about things I cannot control.

Anyway, I did grab the wrong end of the stick. Thank you for the heads up.
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The in-cockpit shots are clearly from the backseat of an F-15D, or maybe an F-15E, and not of any MiG whatsoever.
Well it's not an ACES II ejection seat that both the F-15D and F-15E used, as the bodies of the seats bear no resemblance to it, save for the






It looks more to me like a Zvezda K-36D-3-5 LT trainer ejection seat, minus the coverings with the pitot tubes (the things sticking out of the sides) adjusted (they can be anywhere to a 45* angle). For those who don't know anything about them, they have three modes to measure air pressure differences to determine velocity, to select the manner of ejection in the MiG-21's selection system:

  • Mode 1: low altitude, low speed - Mode 1 is for ejections at speeds of less than 250 knots and altitudes of less than 15,000 feet. The drogue parachute doesn't deploy in mode 1.
  • Mode 2: low altitude, high speed - Mode 2 is for ejections at speeds of more than 250 knots and altitudes of less than 15,000 feet.
  • Mode 3: high altitude, any speed - Mode 3 is selected for any ejection at an altitude greater than 15,000 feet.
There's also one outside of the cockpit mounted on the forward fuselage on some models. This pic is of a typical 36D-3-5.



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The "cigar" shaped object is probably an airliner, tanker, target drone, or what have you.
How was it able to accelerate so quickly, nevermind stay aloft with no visible engines or wings?

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Also, the MiG-21s taking of in the beginning of the video is a quite familiar scene to me, I've seen it often over the years in different documentaries.
First time I'd seen it.
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