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Weiss Pinguin · 06-22-10, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

That is a very weird sub what ever it is. I don't see anywhere where bow or stern planes were mounted, I also don't see any mountings where a screw would have fit (which i would expect to be ahead of the rudder). Small one too, Seems to be about 12-14 meters long (from the markings on the nose the rails around are about 1m tall)

Maybe a replica? (Unfinished?) Or partly scrapped? Either way it does look incredibly cramped...

Oberon · 06-22-10, 12:05 PM

I'd say a prototype of sorts, perhaps related to the Osprey class?

Raptor1 · 06-22-10, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I'd say a prototype of sorts, perhaps related to the Osprey class?

Can't see it being related to the Osprey, that thing's made for entirely different purposes. I'd say it being some kind of prototype is reasonable though...

Gerald · 06-22-10, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Nope not a COSMOS built sub either. Checked those already.

Look closely at the last picture you will see a tiny circle that has been patched, that must be where the shaft for the prop was.

If you look to entire environment,there are large place for spirited thinking....

FIREWALL · 06-22-10, 12:45 PM

They look like something for kids to play on in a park.

So much for swings and slides.

Gerald · 06-22-10, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

They look like something for kids to play on in a park.

So much for swings and slides.

Or some suitably recreation area for landlubber....

Jimbuna · 06-22-10, 01:13 PM

Could be the next high tec super top secret design awaiting export to NK

Weiss Pinguin · 06-22-10, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

They look like something for kids to play on in a park.

So much for swings and slides.

DUDE

If my park had that thing I would spend every day messing with it. And pretend to fire off torpedoes at all the monkey bars and slides and forts

Buddahaid · 06-22-10, 02:27 PM

Well I don' see a covered shaft hole, dive planes, or a moveable rudder. Matbe it used an external electric motor on a steerable pod? Or maybe it was just a low tech trainer for ballast control? Towed?

Schroeder · 06-22-10, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Well I don' see a covered shaft hole, dive planes, or a moveable rudder. Matbe it used an external electric motor on a steerable pod? Or maybe it was just a low tech trainer for ballast control? Towed?

Maybe all that stuff was removed/reused when that thing got put up on display. I guess it's more difficult to conserve moveable parts than just putting the hulk there.

flatsixes · 06-22-10, 05:22 PM

It's the last remaining example of the infamous North Korean manned mine (code named the "African Queen.)" It was to be towed it out to the shipping lanes, where it would be submerged to periscope depth and wait for something to run into it. Immediately upon visual contact, the crew would inflate a huge yellow mylar balloon tethered to the periscope that read "FREE BEER HERE" and then light the fuses on the torpedoes before running away. Like I said, there were two of these, once.

Jimbuna · 06-23-10, 04:52 AM

How do you 'run away' from a submerged submarine?

flatsixes · 06-23-10, 06:47 AM

A design flaw, to be sure.

krashkart · 06-23-10, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

How do you 'run away' from a submerged submarine?

With good running flippers, of course.

NeonSamurai · 06-23-10, 09:08 AM

I do think I see mounting points for a rudder on it though, there looks to be a hole for the rudder just aft of the vertical fin on the underside that it would be attached to, plus the 4 holes (I assume on each side) on that fin for support mountings.

As for dive planes I can't see any sign of mounting points anywhere on the aft of the sub, though there may have been planes just below the torpedo tubes on the bow. There are hole(s) just below the tubes, and a set of brackets above the tube.

I wonder though if this was a full scale prototype that didn't not go any further in development. I still can't see any trace of a propulsion system though, or support brackets for propulsion, though I do wonder what those square cutouts just in front of the rudder fin are.

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06-22-10, 01:13 PM	#22
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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Well I don' see a covered shaft hole, dive planes, or a moveable rudder. Matbe it used an external electric motor on a steerable pod? Or maybe it was just a low tech trainer for ballast control? Towed? __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	How do you 'run away' from a submerged submarine? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-23-10, 09:08 AM	#30
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I do think I see mounting points for a rudder on it though, there looks to be a hole for the rudder just aft of the vertical fin on the underside that it would be attached to, plus the 4 holes (I assume on each side) on that fin for support mountings. As for dive planes I can't see any sign of mounting points anywhere on the aft of the sub, though there may have been planes just below the torpedo tubes on the bow. There are hole(s) just below the tubes, and a set of brackets above the tube. I wonder though if this was a full scale prototype that didn't not go any further in development. I still can't see any trace of a propulsion system though, or support brackets for propulsion, though I do wonder what those square cutouts just in front of the rudder fin are. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

06-22-10, 12:05 PM	#17
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I'd say a prototype of sorts, perhaps related to the Osprey class?

06-22-10, 05:22 PM	#26
flatsixes Weps Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 362 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	It's the last remaining example of the infamous North Korean manned mine (code named the "African Queen.)" It was to be towed it out to the shipping lanes, where it would be submerged to periscope depth and wait for something to run into it. Immediately upon visual contact, the crew would inflate a huge yellow mylar balloon tethered to the periscope that read "FREE BEER HERE" and then light the fuses on the torpedoes before running away. Like I said, there were two of these, once.

06-23-10, 06:47 AM	#28
flatsixes Weps Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 362 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	A design flaw, to be sure.