“You can’t turn a tiger into a kitten by stroking it.” - Page 2

GoldenRivet · 06-19-10, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

You can't turn a tiger into a kitten by stroking it.

No...

But you can turn a modest mushroom into a mighty pillar of stone!

bada-ching

Betonov · 06-19-10, 08:17 AM

Ich danke ihnen für den Antworten

just thanked my german friends for the answers on the german drafting system in my usual broken german

UnderseaLcpl · 06-19-10, 09:15 AM

Speaking of unrealistic idealism, I have a question about this article. At what point did it become America's responsibility as a nation-state to care about the fact that people the world over suffer and die in genocides or wars or famines or plagues or anything else for that matter? If it is our responsibility then why are so often bent over the barrel for interventionist policies that go awry or are motivated by the "wrong" reasons? We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

Why is it our moral obligation to make everyone happy? If it is our obligation, shouldn't we be able to go about it our own way since we somehow got ourselves into that position in the first place and would probably know a thing or two about it?

I see no reason why we are obligated to respond to anything except direct threats with a valid casus belli. Therefore, I fail to see how we can be held accountable for the actions of other nations, even in part.
I personally think that our foreign policy should consist of letting other nations hire us to provide military aid, peacekeeping, and economic aid. We're already whoring ourselves out to other nations' agendas, we might as well make a few bucks while we're at it. We can't pave the road to hell with good intentions if we have an obligation to a contract service. That way, guys like the author (and myself to some extent) can pick and choose our causes, guaranteeing help to all with as little favoritism as possible.

Failing that, I think we should let a coalition of concerned nations that doesn't include us tackle the problem for once and we'll see how they do. I'm tired of America taking a beating from interests abroad and at home for it's actions, inactions, and everything else as well. I think the policy should, one way or the other, be "put up or shut up".

Schroeder · 06-19-10, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Ich danke ihnen für den Antworten

Gern geschehen.

Blood_splat · 06-19-10, 10:37 AM

We just need to shower the world with love.

Dowly · 06-19-10, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blood_splat

We just need to shower the world with love.

Tits or GTFO.

XabbaRus · 06-19-10, 12:22 PM

And here I was thinking this was a post about Tiger Woods and thinking well a damn large number of women have tried stroking Tiger to make him a kitten.

August · 06-19-10, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

And here I was thinking this was a post about Tiger Woods and thinking well a damn large number of women have tried stroking Tiger to make him a kitten.

So you're saying you're thinking of Tiger Woods getting stroked?

krashkart · 06-19-10, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by August

So you're saying you're thinking of Tiger Woods getting stroked?

Nooooo not while I'm eating...

XabbaRus · 06-20-10, 03:09 AM

Nooo, I was thinking about the women who have stroked Tiger...

06-19-10, 09:15 AM	#18
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Speaking of unrealistic idealism, I have a question about this article. At what point did it become America's responsibility as a nation-state to care about the fact that people the world over suffer and die in genocides or wars or famines or plagues or anything else for that matter? If it is our responsibility then why are so often bent over the barrel for interventionist policies that go awry or are motivated by the "wrong" reasons? We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. Why is it our moral obligation to make everyone happy? If it is our obligation, shouldn't we be able to go about it our own way since we somehow got ourselves into that position in the first place and would probably know a thing or two about it? I see no reason why we are obligated to respond to anything except direct threats with a valid casus belli. Therefore, I fail to see how we can be held accountable for the actions of other nations, even in part. I personally think that our foreign policy should consist of letting other nations hire us to provide military aid, peacekeeping, and economic aid. We're already whoring ourselves out to other nations' agendas, we might as well make a few bucks while we're at it. We can't pave the road to hell with good intentions if we have an obligation to a contract service. That way, guys like the author (and myself to some extent) can pick and choose our causes, guaranteeing help to all with as little favoritism as possible. Failing that, I think we should let a coalition of concerned nations that doesn't include us tackle the problem for once and we'll see how they do. I'm tired of America taking a beating from interests abroad and at home for it's actions, inactions, and everything else as well. I think the policy should, one way or the other, be "put up or shut up". __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

06-19-10, 12:22 PM	#22
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	And here I was thinking this was a post about Tiger Woods and thinking well a damn large number of women have tried stroking Tiger to make him a kitten. __________________

06-20-10, 03:09 AM	#25
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Nooo, I was thinking about the women who have stroked Tiger... __________________

06-19-10, 08:17 AM	#17
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Ich danke ihnen für den Antworten just thanked my german friends for the answers on the german drafting system in my usual broken german

06-19-10, 10:37 AM	#20
Blood_splat Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Beneath the waves Posts: 568 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	We just need to shower the world with love.