Water Clarity

Sailor Steve · 06-02-10, 01:52 PM

How do I change the clarity of the water in SH4? In SH3 it's easy because it's covered by Commander.

I've checked the Scene.dat file with S3D, and couldn't find anything relevant to it, even though I've been told it's there.

Nisgeis · 06-02-10, 01:59 PM

I think it's called 'Underwater Fog' but it's been a long time since I looked in those files. Someone who knows what they are talking about will hopefully be along soon.

BillBam · 06-02-10, 03:38 PM

Webster has a mod for water clarity here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=152907

Zel · 06-02-10, 03:46 PM

If you mean water clarity when the camera is above the water surface, go to data\shaders\water , and edit "watertransPS.fx" or "watertransp64PS.fx". can't remember which one. You can edit them with the notepad, search for DepthLength or MaxDist.

If you're talking about clarity for underwater view, open scene.dat with S3d
Node - sky -> EnvData -> EnvData -> Underwater -> Fog -> ZMax

I'm not sure how much is one unit of ZMax, though.

Hope that helps!

Sailor Steve · 06-02-10, 07:26 PM

It did help, Zel, and thank you. I did mean the underwater view. As I said, I had read 'Scene.dat' but I went in and couldn't find any files that said "Water". Your directions took me right there. The 'Zmax' seems to be the same as the files in SH3. I set it for 3, and then for 2, and I'm happy with the results.

3:

And 2:

Though it's certainly not to everyone's taste, I like the murky feeling.

I hadn't thought about the transparency as seen from above, but now that you mention it I might try to shorted that a bit as well. Problem is I looked at the files you mentioned, and I found the word "Depthlength", but I'm not sure what the numbers mean and was afraid to fiddle with it. Anyway, I'll figure it out sometime (probably not without more help).

Thanks again.

peabody · 06-02-10, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I found the word "Depthlength", but I'm not sure what the numbers mean and was afraid to fiddle with it.
Thanks again.

Well I can understand being nervous, being so new to the forums and all...

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Throw it in a Mod folder and fiddle away.

Peabody

Sailor Steve · 06-02-10, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peabody

Well I can understand being nervous, being so new to the forums and all...

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Hey! No fair picking on the old guy!

(Cool! I've finally reached an age where I have my own special 'victim' status!)

Quote:

Throw it in a Mod folder and fiddle away.

Peabody

You mean, like, make a JSGME-ready folder and test it that way?

D'OH!

peabody · 06-03-10, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Hey! No fair picking on the old guy!

(Cool! I've finally reached an age where I have my own special 'victim' status!)

You mean, like, make a JSGME-ready folder and test it that way?

D'OH!

Yup that's what I meant. As for picking on the old guy, I'm only a step and 1/2 behind you.

Woops, did I fall asleep again?

Peabody

Zel · 06-03-10, 01:29 AM

In the shader files, find this:

depthlength = saturate(depthlength/maxDist);

in the other file:

depthlength = saturate(depthlength/maxDist + shallowfactor);

Replace maxDist with (maxdist * X)

example: depthlength = saturate(depthlength/(maxDist*0.5));

X>1 should increase clarity
X<1 should decrease it

Mod both watertranspPS.fx and watertransp64PS.fx because i'm not sure which one the game will use.

06-02-10, 01:52 PM	#1
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Water Clarity How do I change the clarity of the water in SH4? In SH3 it's easy because it's covered by Commander. I've checked the Scene.dat file with S3D, and couldn't find anything relevant to it, even though I've been told it's there. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-02-10, 01:59 PM	#2
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	I think it's called 'Underwater Fog' but it's been a long time since I looked in those files. Someone who knows what they are talking about will hopefully be along soon. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

06-02-10, 03:38 PM	#3
BillBam Watch Officer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yuba/Sutter, CA Posts: 347 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Webster has a mod for water clarity here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=152907 __________________

06-02-10, 07:26 PM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	It did help, Zel, and thank you. I did mean the underwater view. As I said, I had read 'Scene.dat' but I went in and couldn't find any files that said "Water". Your directions took me right there. The 'Zmax' seems to be the same as the files in SH3. I set it for 3, and then for 2, and I'm happy with the results. 3: And 2: Though it's certainly not to everyone's taste, I like the murky feeling. I hadn't thought about the transparency as seen from above, but now that you mention it I might try to shorted that a bit as well. Problem is I looked at the files you mentioned, and I found the word "Depthlength", but I'm not sure what the numbers mean and was afraid to fiddle with it. Anyway, I'll figure it out sometime (probably not without more help). Thanks again. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-02-10, 03:46 PM	#4
Zel Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 45 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	If you mean water clarity when the camera is above the water surface, go to data\shaders\water , and edit "watertransPS.fx" or "watertransp64PS.fx". can't remember which one. You can edit them with the notepad, search for DepthLength or MaxDist. If you're talking about clarity for underwater view, open scene.dat with S3d Node - sky -> EnvData -> EnvData -> Underwater -> Fog -> ZMax I'm not sure how much is one unit of ZMax, though. Hope that helps!

06-03-10, 01:29 AM	#9
Zel Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 45 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	In the shader files, find this: depthlength = saturate(depthlength/maxDist); in the other file: depthlength = saturate(depthlength/maxDist + shallowfactor); Replace maxDist with (maxdist * X) example: depthlength = saturate(depthlength/(maxDist*0.5)); X>1 should increase clarity X<1 should decrease it Mod both watertranspPS.fx and watertransp64PS.fx because i'm not sure which one the game will use.