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Old 05-20-10, 01:36 PM   #16
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If you go to your Commander install and look at the folders, there's a Date folder with many subfolders, some of which include a data\Sound\Gramophone folder. There are sound files in those directories that will be written into your game's Gramophone folder according to the date you are at in your current career.

The files are all called Radio.wav and they are recordings of radio broadcasts relevant to certain date ranges, that's why they're in the Date subfolders and inserted into the game accordingly.

If you are using numbered filenames in your Gram folder to create an in-game "playlist," like I did, it may be that the unnumbered file from Commander is interfering with that by "confusing" the game somehow. (IIRC GWX puts 20+ numbered files into the Gram folder when you install it, so if you're using GWX and haven't altered the Gram files that came with it, you would still have those in there at the very least.)

Most of the trouble I had involved certain spots in the "line-up" being completely skipped over (regardless of what file was there) or else the game getting hung up when it seemed to be trying to locate the next track to play and just freezing up and crashing. I will say that the game didn't seem to have any trouble playing the .wav file that Commander added when I cleared everything else out, but when I had other files in there that I added myself I always had trouble.

I was experimenting with converting the Radio.wav files to one of the other formats, renaming them with a numbered filename in order to fit them into my "playlist" when they were added via Commander, and finally with just deleting them from the Commander files completely.

Anyway, Commander does add that file to your Gram folder so if you find you're having issues only when starting via Commander, that would be the first thing I'd look at.
Thank you very much. I was wondering where that radio.wav file came from. This is precisely what I needed to know.
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Old 05-20-10, 02:03 PM   #17
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Thank you very much. I was wondering where that radio.wav file came from. This is precisely what I needed to know.
You're welcome!

At one point I thought I was losing my mind because I'd cleared everything out of the game's Gram folder that I or GWX had added, and then put back in the one file that the stock game has in there. And then I'd load the game and the stock file would play and then a second file would play and I could not for the life of me figure out where it was coming from, lol.

I had just started using Commander and didn't think at first to check those folders.

Due to other issues that came up I never did get back to playing around with the Gramophone folder - but the best luck I ever had with it was when I started converting the ogg files that never seemed to play into mp3 and using those instead. Got better results with mostly mp3s but there was the occasional file that would only get played when I used the ogg version instead. Contradicts most people's experience, but that's how it was working for me.

What was really odd was that when I numbered the filenames to make them play in a certain order, there were always certain spots in the order that seemed to get skipped in-game no matter what track was in that spot. So it didn't seem to have anything to do with the actual file, just its place in the lineup. The same file would play fine if I put it somewhere else in the order. I never did figure that one out.

Now that I've got everything else set up again (knock wood) I will probably go back and start looking at the Gram folder again... probably just try it with the files that came with GWX and see if I have the same issues with certain tracks getting skipped.
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Old 05-23-10, 07:49 AM   #18
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Ha Frau, I remember when you had issues with your gramophone folder, and I suggested a clean re-install.

good times.
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Old 05-23-10, 10:46 AM   #19
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I'm still having the same issues after transfering steam outside of my programs folder, I also reinstalled commander to ensure it was outside the programs folder and ensured it was set to run as admin and in xp compatibility. Ran through the help file again and dont think Im missing anything from there.

Any Ideas?

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