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G2B · 05-20-10, 02:07 AM

I had read a couple threads on the bug but did not search every thread, and the ones I had read did not resemble my issue.

O.K. so Passing Thermal Layer is a very strange bug from some of the other threads I've read.

Triggers could possibly vary from saving to close to port, editing save files or editing number of officers to changing boat skins. It is a stock bug issue.

With the trouble I've been going through must be to close to port when saving at the start of a career

Thanks Magic, at least one person is willing to put up with a lunatic

nappy · 05-20-10, 06:00 AM

Seems you have tried almost every trick in the book.

heres my suggestion.

try to insall vanilla SH IV on another PC if at all possible. If the problem is there
you KNOW that its the game itself.
if the problem is not there, then you KNOW that you have in fact not been able
to remove all traces of the game when you removed it from your original computer, and
will have to retrace your steps in order to try and figure out what was left beind.

my 0.2 cents anyways.

nappy

Bosje · 05-20-10, 06:36 AM

and fresh downloads of the mods, in case you didnt do that
save at sea some 100 nm away from any shores and any contacts so that you're absolutely all alone out there. if you still have the issue then, i'd prolly thrown the computer out of the window and use the game disc as a beer coaster

WarlordATF · 05-20-10, 07:13 AM

This is just my thoughts about the strange sounds when loading saves.

I think its either a memory overload issue or the save did not have enough time to complete before the game was continued or exited.

I don't get the Passing Thermal Layer (But i have in the past), mine sounds like a torpedo launching. Its not consistant though, if i return to port and start a new patrol the next save usually is fine. However once it starts its there for all saves until i dock at port.

It seems like the more stuff that has happened on a patrol the more likely i will get the bug, That kinda why i think it may be a memory issue.

Also i noticed that when you save a game your HD recieves a burst of data, then a second or so later a second burst hits. You can clearly hear this by the Hard Drive Chatter, its possible that if you exited the game or resumed it before all the data was written it might cause a bad save. It seems to me that the bug happens less often if i give the game a few minutes after i save before i do anything else.

Like i said, this are just my thoughts in the matter. Kinda like shooting clay pigeons in the dark with a BB gun.

05-20-10, 11:57 AM

magic452 wrote...

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Use fresh copies of all mods not ones used before.

Bosje wrote...

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and fresh downloads of the mods, in case you didnt do that

I don't understand why this would help? Are these any different from any other program that you would download and use multiple times? I have reused programs and mods many times with no issues.

Urge

magic452 · 05-20-10, 07:50 PM

Normally you could reuse mods but he had tried this and was still having the problem. Just might have been a bad mod download or one that got corrupted. We were on a fishing expedition.

Magic

G2B · 05-21-10, 01:16 AM

Thanks Every One. My apologies if I seem edgy or insane but this bug is a royal P.I.T.A.

I would have loaded SH4 on my wife's computer but I get that funny look like "What is Wrong with Yours!!!!!?????" So after rummaging through the computer and removing anything and everything I could find of SH4 or UBI, reloaded Vanilla 1.5. Started a new career and sailed about 200 nm from Manila, saved reloaded and no Passing Thermal Layer.

The All Stop bug is still there but that is one that's been around quite awhile and is easy to deal with.

Off to install TMO and RSRD, Vanilla just does not do it, the whole grainy view jello type water and odd sunlight but the interior night lighting is good.

Going with new downloads also, just to be sure.

Admiral8Q · 05-21-10, 03:46 AM

The "All stop" bug doesn't bother me, I just hit the ahead standard key. I'm used to that. Also go to the map and hit the follow plotted course icon.

G2B · 05-22-10, 01:25 AM

All modded up with no problems

Heading up to Lingayen Gulf

magic452 · 05-22-10, 02:14 AM

I was going to say "Pics or it didn't happen" but you got a pic so I guess everything is good to go.

Give em hell.

Magic

05-20-10, 02:07 AM	#16
G2B XO Join Date: May 2009 Location: Guam, I think Posts: 420 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	I had read a couple threads on the bug but did not search every thread, and the ones I had read did not resemble my issue. O.K. so Passing Thermal Layer is a very strange bug from some of the other threads I've read. Triggers could possibly vary from saving to close to port, editing save files or editing number of officers to changing boat skins. It is a stock bug issue. With the trouble I've been going through must be to close to port when saving at the start of a career Thanks Magic, at least one person is willing to put up with a lunatic __________________

05-20-10, 06:36 AM	#18
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	and fresh downloads of the mods, in case you didnt do that save at sea some 100 nm away from any shores and any contacts so that you're absolutely all alone out there. if you still have the issue then, i'd prolly thrown the computer out of the window and use the game disc as a beer coaster __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

05-20-10, 07:13 AM	#19
WarlordATF Frogman Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW Florida Posts: 288 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	This is just my thoughts about the strange sounds when loading saves. I think its either a memory overload issue or the save did not have enough time to complete before the game was continued or exited. I don't get the Passing Thermal Layer (But i have in the past), mine sounds like a torpedo launching. Its not consistant though, if i return to port and start a new patrol the next save usually is fine. However once it starts its there for all saves until i dock at port. It seems like the more stuff that has happened on a patrol the more likely i will get the bug, That kinda why i think it may be a memory issue. Also i noticed that when you save a game your HD recieves a burst of data, then a second or so later a second burst hits. You can clearly hear this by the Hard Drive Chatter, its possible that if you exited the game or resumed it before all the data was written it might cause a bad save. It seems to me that the bug happens less often if i give the game a few minutes after i save before i do anything else. Like i said, this are just my thoughts in the matter. Kinda like shooting clay pigeons in the dark with a BB gun. __________________

05-20-10, 07:50 PM	#21
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Normally you could reuse mods but he had tried this and was still having the problem. Just might have been a bad mod download or one that got corrupted. We were on a fishing expedition. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

05-21-10, 01:16 AM	#22
G2B XO Join Date: May 2009 Location: Guam, I think Posts: 420 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	Thanks Every One. My apologies if I seem edgy or insane but this bug is a royal P.I.T.A. I would have loaded SH4 on my wife's computer but I get that funny look like "What is Wrong with Yours!!!!!?????" So after rummaging through the computer and removing anything and everything I could find of SH4 or UBI, reloaded Vanilla 1.5. Started a new career and sailed about 200 nm from Manila, saved reloaded and no Passing Thermal Layer. The All Stop bug is still there but that is one that's been around quite awhile and is easy to deal with. Off to install TMO and RSRD, Vanilla just does not do it, the whole grainy view jello type water and odd sunlight but the interior night lighting is good. Going with new downloads also, just to be sure. __________________

05-20-10, 06:00 AM	#17
nappy Helmsman Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 101 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Seems you have tried almost every trick in the book. heres my suggestion. try to insall vanilla SH IV on another PC if at all possible. If the problem is there you KNOW that its the game itself. if the problem is not there, then you KNOW that you have in fact not been able to remove all traces of the game when you removed it from your original computer, and will have to retrace your steps in order to try and figure out what was left beind. my 0.2 cents anyways. nappy

05-21-10, 03:46 AM	#23
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,077 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The "All stop" bug doesn't bother me, I just hit the ahead standard key. I'm used to that. Also go to the map and hit the follow plotted course icon. __________________

05-22-10, 01:25 AM	#24
G2B XO Join Date: May 2009 Location: Guam, I think Posts: 420 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	All modded up with no problems Heading up to Lingayen Gulf __________________

05-22-10, 02:14 AM	#25
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I was going to say "Pics or it didn't happen" but you got a pic so I guess everything is good to go. Give em hell. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l