Military Medal for Courageous restraint !

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I think you blame the "population" or whatever (presumably meaning non-military US citizens) a little too much. The chain of command doesn't include the population and that's that. It's very simple.

I'd actually just look at the chain of command and the various entities that actutally are part of it and maybe find some fault with those for a change. And yes, that also includes the boots on the ground. Soldiers are not some dieties that cannot err in any way. The soldiers I know are very much fallible and often they are unable to find employment in the normal society. Why should these individuals be worshipped, especially when they give so little reason to be appreciated.

I.............you....... <facepalm>

I can't be bothered to explain this crap to this guy. I just don't feel like dealing with it right now. I'm still trying to get over the recent death of a former squadmate, and I simply cannot summon the will to write a long and well-composed post about all the ways that the perspective of a non-combatant who hails from a popsicle that somehow attained national status is completely wrong.

I would take it as a favor if somebody would supply him with something else to troll after. I'll get back to him when I have the time and wherewithal to answer properly.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I.............you....... <facepalm>

I can't be bothered to explain this crap to this guy. I just don't feel like dealing with it right now. I'm still trying to get over the recent death of a former squadmate, and I simply cannot summon the will to write a long and well-composed post about all the ways that the perspective of a non-combatant who hails from a popsicle that somehow attained national status is completely wrong.

I would take it as a favor if somebody would supply him with something else to troll after. I'll get back to him when I have the time and wherewithal to answer properly.

Why even bother?

I think constantly referring to people as trolls for simply stating an opinion is infact trolling.

[Onkel Neal]

I think after several warnings, unnecessary spamming through Bad Post Report means 15 days in the brig.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

The war in Iraq has become very unpopular.

I presume you meant "was" unpopular.

For all practical purposes, the U.S. war in Iraq has been over since june 30, 2009 when control over all security issues was turned over to Iraqi forces and U.S. troops withdrew back to their bases.

It's the Iraqis mess now. Let's hope they can make it work.

[Sailor Steve]

The war actually ended back in 2003. Everything since has been police work.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I presume you meant "was" unpopular.

For all practical purposes, the U.S. war in Iraq has been over since june 30, 2009 when control over all security issues was turned over to Iraqi forces and U.S. troops retreated back to their bases.

It's the Iraqis mess now. Let's hope they can make it work.

I agree with you when you say "It's the Iraqis mess now. Let's hope they can make it work".

But do you think it would sound better if the US forces simply 'withdrew' to their bases, just as the UK forces did at Basra?

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I agree with you when you say "It's the Iraqis mess now. Let's hope they can make it work".

But do you think it would sound better if the US forces simply 'withdrew' to their bases, just as the UK forces did at Basra?

I am not sure if I understand you point. U.S. forces did withdraw back to their bases and are leaving the country as fast as possible, down to 94,000 at last count. The Iraqi governemnent now has full and complete sovereignty over its entire territory. U.S. forces only leave their bases with the consent or at the request of the Iraqi governement.

[August]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I am not sure if I understand you point. U.S. forces did withdraw back to their bases and are leaving the country as fast as possible, down to 94,000 at last count. The Iraqi governemnent now has full and complete sovereignty over its entire territory. U.S. forces only leave their bases with the consent or at the request of the Iraqi governement.

The word "retreat" has certain negative connotations.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by August

The word "retreat" has certain negative connotations.

Thats why it is now known as a Strategic Withdrawl

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by August

The word "retreat" has certain negative connotations.

I see your point. Thankfully there is no time limit on editing, although I am still debating whether " retreat" is not more appropriate.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I am not sure if I understand you point. U.S. forces did withdraw back to their bases and are leaving the country as fast as possible, down to 94,000 at last count. The Iraqi governemnent now has full and complete sovereignty over its entire territory. U.S. forces only leave their bases with the consent or at the request of the Iraqi governement.

Originally Posted by August

The word "retreat" has certain negative connotations.

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I see your point. Thankfully there is no time limit on editing, although I am still debating whether " retreat" is not more appropriate.

Thanks August....you beat me to it

@Bilge_Rat... no prob matey, tis just that the word 'retreat' tends to sound to me like the first reaction after a defeat...and I certainly don't think either of our sets of forces suffered that

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The war actually ended back in 2003. Everything since has been police work.

Damned right.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Thats why it is now known as a Strategic Withdrawl

I always though it was called: "advancing in another direction".

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I always though it was called: "advancing in another direction".

I always heard people refer to it as a rapid displacement to the rear. I think I like your way better