Muhammed cartoonist attacked in Sweden

[gimpy117]

It's a pity that Islam has such a violent undertone in its culture.

I think the main problem with Islam is that they are stuck in a 12 century mind set where all blasphemers deserve death, and Unfortunately In today's modern world things are so interconnected that these intolerant ideas are outdated. Most other religions in the world either never had these Ideas or have moved on to a more peaceful and accepting ideology. I still wonder when Islam Will move on as a religion and realize that what they are doing is childish and outdated. Because frankly...nobody else goes about trying to kill people who depict your deity in some manner or another anymore, and its sort of putting the rest of the world off...

Originally Posted by gimpy117

I think the main problem with Islam is that they are stuck in a 12 century mind set where all blasphemers deserve death, and Unfortunately In today's modern world things are so interconnected that these intolerant ideas are outdated.

Intolerence is never outdated. It is the tolerent who become outdated.
If the swedes themselves don't become intolerent they will become subjucated, and eventualy extinct, by their own hand.

[Happy Times]

Funny video.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

If the swedes themselves don't become intolerent they will become subjucated, and eventualy extinct, by their own hand.

Not just the Swedes, but all Western culture. It wouldn't be the first cultural sphere that got almost or completely destroyed by Islam.

Tolerance is for the strong, not for the weak. You can only be tolerant, if you are in the stronger position. It means the strong does not use his strength to dominate the other and to enforce his will onto him. The weak, the defending, cannot tolerate the stronger doing to him what he wants, but must suffer what the strong one wants to do to him, the weak. The weak has no choice. If you have no choice, you do not choose between what you accept to tolerate and what not. You are not in a position to make such a choice - the choice is not available to you.

That's why it makes me laughing when I hear demands that the West must be more tolerant towards islam. The West is under siege, and it is giving ground, small step by small step it falls back, and Islam is on the offensive.

Save me from more Western tolerance. It is nothing else but accepting victimhood and choosing to stay weak - and hdiing that weakness behind the label "tolerance". The truth is that we are not tolerant - we are just weak.

Strength means to have the choice between options. The weaker somebody is, the less options he has, the less choice he has. For becomign strong, you must find ways to increase the number of options available to you - that is what strength is: having the choice between options. Weakness is no moral virtue. It just is - weakness. Morality and virtue comes from strength - and having a strong sense of responsibility when deciding whether or not to use that strength, and for what purpose. Weakness and moral virtue - are almost mutually exclusive to each other.

[Happy Times]

I still think we are just naive and too PC.
Actually probably because we know our strength, if we would unleash all the power we have there wouldnt be a Muslim alive.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Penguin

However if you want to abolish the constitution or take away our freedom you deserve a bullet in the head.

Indeed. If your religion is incompatible with the concept of free and open speech, then the problem does not lie with the concept of free and open speech.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Indeed. If your religion is incompatible with the concept of free and open speech, then the problem does not lie with the concept of free and open speech.

And what is free speech is decided by...who?

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

And what is free speech is decided by...who?

Huh..