A wartime thought on radios. - Page 2

Capt. Teach · 04-16-10, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Or at least that was the way it was presented.

Heheheh, yeah presentation was/is everything. Truth means little ... just present it right and you are golden. Like how they fail to mention that the importation of any supplies is a boon to your enemy, be it food, fuel, water, ore, wood ... doesn't matter.

From what I can remember, covert type stuff covered with civilians is common practice ... and so is screaming foul when they wind up in harms way. Somehow though, I don't seem to remember anyone saying "Heyyyyyyy ... who was responsible for putting that stuff in with the civilians in the first place?"

Sailor Steve · 04-16-10, 05:37 PM

Well, that's been the controversy over the Lusitania for almost 100 years now.

Capt. Teach · 04-16-10, 06:05 PM

Excellent point! I know about that ship ... just didn't think of it. Well remembered Sailor Steve.

I guess the thing that gets me is ... you can watch clips of them shipping stuff in (with civilians) ... and grinning and patting themselves on the back about how clever they are.. and then show another clip of them screaming foul because another ship didn't make it and the civilians are dead. Its the "have your cake and eat it too" that bugs me (doesn't matter which side or who it was the use of the concept bugs me

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Vandecker · 04-16-10, 06:41 PM

I'm not sure how widespread they were in service but apparently such beacons were used:

http://www.uboataces.com/beacons.shtml

Capt. Teach · 04-16-10, 06:51 PM

Fantastic find Vandecker! Wow, so there was a limited transmitter capability with recorded message ..... hmmm

04-16-10, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vandecker

I'm not sure how widespread they were in service but apparently such beacons were used:

http://www.uboataces.com/beacons.shtml

Good catch, I will stand corrected regarding deployable beacon floats.

Yet, the almost total lack of anecdotal accounts of these beacon's effective (or indeed not so effective use) could be taken as evidence that their use was never widespread or that they actually mitigated the long-range communications issues facing the Front boats.

I should add the the USA had the first primative flight data recorders in commercial use by 1938 so there was recording technology out there, just highly specialized and very expensive.

04-16-10, 05:37 PM	#17
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04-16-10, 06:05 PM	#18
Capt. Teach Gunner Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: U-64, Generally Posts: 94 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 1	Excellent point! I know about that ship ... just didn't think of it. Well remembered Sailor Steve. I guess the thing that gets me is ... you can watch clips of them shipping stuff in (with civilians) ... and grinning and patting themselves on the back about how clever they are.. and then show another clip of them screaming foul because another ship didn't make it and the civilians are dead. Its the "have your cake and eat it too" that bugs me (doesn't matter which side or who it was the use of the concept bugs me ) __________________ Death? I'm not afraid of death, its the last few seconds of life that scare the hell out of me.

04-16-10, 06:41 PM	#19
Vandecker Sailor man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 45 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure how widespread they were in service but apparently such beacons were used: http://www.uboataces.com/beacons.shtml __________________ "If all else fails immortality can be obtained by through spectacular error" John Kenneth Galbroith

04-16-10, 06:51 PM	#20
Capt. Teach Gunner Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: U-64, Generally Posts: 94 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 1	Fantastic find Vandecker! Wow, so there was a limited transmitter capability with recorded message ..... hmmm __________________ Death? I'm not afraid of death, its the last few seconds of life that scare the hell out of me.